YouTube starts mass takedowns of videos promoting ‘harmful or ineffective’ cancer cures | The platform will also take action against videos that discourage people from seeking professional medical …::YouTube will remove content about harmful or ineffective cancer treatments or which “discourages viewers from seeking professional medical treatment.”
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Thank you. Finally.
My mum had cancer. The number of such bullshit videos i got sent, offering no real hope, was painful. It’s heartbreaking to toy with people in that situation.
Could be very profitable though. Use the proceeds to buy genuine cancer therapy and medication. Silver linings!
Capitalism brain
That is textbook emotional manipulation.
Having been in that position, no. I would not appreciate being emotionally fucked up.
“Silver linings”.
YouTube didn’t exist when an Astrocytoma got my old man so this avenue was closed to us and we had to rely on ordinary misinformation. People don’t realise how lucky they are these days.
that probably means that advertisers started to have issue with that, and it didn’t bother them for well over decade
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
YouTube hopes that this policy framework will be flexible enough to cover a broad range of medical topics, while finding a balance between minimizing harm and allowing debate.
In its blog post, YouTube says it would take action both against treatments that are actively harmful, as well as those that are unproven and are being suggested in place of established alternatives.
YouTube’s updated policies come a little over three years after it banded together with some of the world’s biggest tech platforms to make a shared commitment to fight covid-19 misinformation.
While the major tech platforms stood united in early 2020, their exact approaches to covid-19 misinformation have differed since that initial announcement.
Most notably, Twitter stopped enforcing its covid-19 misinformation policy in late 2022 following its acquisition by Elon Musk.
Meta has also softened its moderation approach recently, rolling back its covid-19 misinformation rules in countries (like the US) where the disease is no longer considered a national emergency.
I’m a bot and I’m open source!
YouTube hopes that this policy framework will be flexible enough to cover a broad range of medical topics, while finding a balance between minimizing harm and allowing debate.
there’s nothing to debate
I’d say that claim is debatable
if you want to determine efficacy of a treatment, you run a clinical trial, not a debate
Can we run a clinical trial on that comment?
Reader described experiencing mild discomfort but no visible signs of cancer.
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that’s why we have peer review, replications, editorial standards and so on, if something’s funky with your paper you get a retraction. generally scientific method got pretty good at getting better description of reality over time
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science from 200 years ago is not the same thing as we have now ffs
now, and at basically any point from past hundred years or so, when scientific method was reasonably widely adopted, this method is a tool to avoid repeating mistakes like this
and at any rate it doesn’t mean that random snake oil peddler, in this case “traditional medicine” flavoured, is more trustworthy than state of the art evidence based medicine, just because science made mistakes in the (distant) past
Should have happened many years ago really
How rude! Now where will conservatives “do their own research”?
Who determines what is ineffective or harmful?
I mean chemo isn’t puppies and rainbows.
I mean chemo is effective. It fucks you up. But it’s pretty good at “curing” cancer.
Maybe someone should start a social media platform that only publishes the truth. Truth something. And it could be moderated by a really smart AI that is the final arbiter. It would know what’s true because it’s scraped the whole of human knowledge.
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You’re right, we should let these vile scammers prey on vulnerable people when they’re at their most hopeless. They don’t deserve their money! They won’t have any use for it!
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The fact that there’s debate about the efficancy of certain medicine doesn’t change the fact that we atleast have a relatively good idea about what doesn’t work. People like Steve Jobs would probably have a thing or two to say about that aswell.
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“Big pharma” companies do have a potential interest in covering up the harms of medicines in their patent rosters. If it doesn’t straight up kill their customers, it’s less money they have to spend on R&D for less harmful treatments.
Not to imply random snake oil assholes selling ivermectin etc. don’t have similar, worse interests. But no one in the space whatsoever is just immune from standing to gain from doing something bad without serious oversight from all angles. That includes vigorous and scientifically-minded public conversation about it - not just walled off to professionals. There’s no magical formula here, you need public education and open information, to not only just have correct information but refute incorrect information. If you have this big walled garden around “The Truth” and delete everything else, well, we just lived through the consequence of that with COVID, it breeds distrust and pseudoscience.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisinin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digoxin
there are probably more, starting with aspirin (salicin), modern opioids (opium) and modern anticholinergics (atropine). there’s also plenty of stuff in traditional medicine that maybe does nothing beneficial or even kinda works but it’s way too toxic for modern regulatory agencies, like all heavy metals and aconitine
Taking these medicines in the forms they are found in nature is a horrible idea. Most of the plants they come from are poisonous because the therapeutic index of most of the drugs here are low, meaning the line between medicine and poison is very fine. Purifying the ingredient and allowing tight control of the dosage is the reason any of these are able to be used safely. Please don’t go around eating bits of foxglove or belladonna.
As you’ve seen, modern medicine is not shy about taking ingredients found in nature when they actually have a useful purpose in medicine, and enabling them to be actually used safely instead of taking some random unknown dosage of a potentially deadly drug and hoping for the best.
Except for fixing vitamin and mineral deficiencies, supplements are ineffective at best and dangerous at worst. They’re in desperate need of better regulation in the United States. They scam tons of people and get away with ridiculous claims like fighting dementia based on no evidence that would be totally illegal for any actual pharmaceutical company to claim, all while selling bottles of stuff with “proprietary formulas” or claiming to have plants that aren’t even in there when independent researchers look at them. All totally legal by the way, no requirement for ingredients listed on a supplement to reflect reality. Stay away if you value your health or your money. Not saying pharmaceutical companies are always shining beacons of beneficence here, obviously I have many problems with them as well, but they at least have some sort of regulated evidence base for the most part.
i’m with you, i’m just saying that the bits of “traditional medicine” that work (as in, have active compounds) become medicine without adjectives
Taking these medicines in the forms they are found in nature is a horrible idea
not really, if you know how much of the active compound is out there. but this limits applicability heavily (can’t put herbal extract in iv bag). pure compounds are much better (better stability, higher degree of quality control etc)
