But people were bad at assessing whether images were made by artificial intelligence or an artist.

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    7 months ago

    not everything you don’t like is knee-jerk reaction…
    a lot of people have minds with or without your ability to imagine other perspectives

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      7 months ago

      True but irrelevant as the sudden general hatred for generative art truly is the definition of a knee jerk reaction.

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        7 months ago

        for some, i suppose… but by and large, these individuals do have actual reasons…
        you can pretend like everyone that hates it is just following a trend, but it’s not useful and just a strawman.

        it may seem like a “sudden general hatred” but generative images are relatively only suddenly good… so any reaction would be likewise sudden.

        personally, i’m on both sides. i’ve seen some cool stuff, and see it as a great tool for artists to build off of, and for enabling non-artists to create cool pictures for whatever reason…

        however, the fact that the data set is mostly copyrighted works and the artists who actually trained the ai aren’t being compensated… and never gave permission…
        as well as a shit load of poseur artists pretending like they made something, or pretending like tweaking prompts makes them an artist…

        there’s a whole thing in studying art with understanding the background of the artist… the context and environment, and the meaning of the work…

        there is no perspective in ai generated images… (until AGI, i suppose)
        it might be the same to the average person, but that doesn’t really matter. the average person wouldn’t appreciate most contemporary artwork…

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          As someone been in the field a long time before tha AI boom, just trust me. It’s knee jerk. They have no good reason to hate generative art, even the idiotic way they fed copyrighted work into some models does not explain in the least why anyone should hate an entire way of making art

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              7 months ago

              No you did not and have a very limited view of what generative art is.

              Do you realise that in the eighties when the first generative artists arrived it was without this knee jerk shit, and studied just as much as the other art

              In whatever case you may not decide what is art and not, nor pretend that it only seems sudden. It is sudden. Hatred for no good reason, just because it’s popular opinion. It will very soon feel really foolish to have such a stance because some of the big companies are disrespectful. It is just an art form. Nothing worth hate about it

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                7 months ago

                yeah, you’re not making art if you tell AI to draw you a pretty picture… neither is the ai…
                get over it

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                  7 months ago

                  Anything someone calls art is art. If they only shit, it’s art. It’s important you understand this.

                  It’s valid for you to say “I don’t care for AI art and think it’s cheap” which, I also agree with, however, what you are engaged in is harmful aggressive rhetoric.

                  And no. Generative art is not telling ai to draw. You are delusional and blinded by rage.

                  Stop being a child, as soon as possible.

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                    7 months ago

                    ok, your mom is art then…

                    Anything someone calls art is art.

                    and you’re extremely wrong to say it’s not " valid" to say that…