Legal repercussions have arrived for the leaders of the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential contest, in what could serve as a warning to those who meddle in future elections.

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    Damage has been done!

    The people who bought into those lies don’t just automatically not believe them now. If Democrats would go on the offensive once in a while and if our useless mass media would do some investigating, we wouldn’t have to rely on lawsuits years after the fact to finally shut some of these people up.

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    Are they though? Sure there are charges, and may even be convictions (I’m not convinced on that one) But will they actually serve real time, in a real prison, with other real criminals? It wouldn’t surprise me at all if it doesn’t end up being some sort of Wolf Of Wall Street type sentence (if any). And the ring leader in this circus will probably get a lo-jack on his ankle and be confined to Mar-a-lago (again if actually convicted)

    Now, they deserve far worse IMO, for something like what they all did, capital punishment doesn’t feel strong enough for them. But our system is so screwed up beyond any real semblance of real justice, it wouldn’t surprise me if this all in the end, results with absolution no real world consequences for any of them, let alone the head clown…

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      They’re largely cooked–read the indictments in their entirety or watch two lawyers geek out over it. They were way too brazen, and even a conservative judge would have their hand forced by the law and public interest. These are the consequences of criminal behavior, and all criminals must face this eventually; I know because I’ve been locked up quite a bit and am familiar with the machinations of the US Justice system. They are in for complete psychological torture. I literally couldn’t imagine a worse punishment for these people whose realities depend upon narcissistic delusions and extrinsic reinforcement. It will be a painful disintegration for any person, much less an aged person with affluenza. They will experience isolation reserved for the worst people alive because of their profile and because of Thomas Silverstein making the Ultramax system airtight. Trump’s most likely end point is 100+ feet underground in Colorado, with all the other high profile crims, having destroyed all friends and family.

      The RICO charges is an unappealable AND unpardonable 5 year minimum sentence, for example.

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    They are getting off easy. They attempted a coup. It’s a wonder they aren’t on trial for their lives.

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      Getting the death sentence would be difficult on a former president.

      Add in his cultists, who seem to have a boner for vigilante “justice,” and I could absolutely see, from my vantage point in the south, red necks turning to violence over the death of their cult leader.

      Personally I’d rather see them rot in a cell, deprived of all they relish. No more big macs for Trump. No binging fox. No more yes men kissing his diaper laden ass.

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    The lesson here is that you can get away with terrible shit for decades and risk a slight chance of a slap on the wrist. Also, having a ton of money means you can continue to do it while dragging out a trial start date for years.

    If they don’t all end up in prison until they die of old age, the only lessons are that justice is delayed and minimal at best.

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      Also, they’re not “facing consequences”. “Facing consequences” is when they’re all actually in prison.

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      Federal sentencing guidelines are a thing. You can know the sentencing range before the trial even starts.

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    They didn’t just deny the election. The took steps to overturn the will of the people! No one should cares that they lied. Politicians lie all the time. You should only judge them based on their actions, because they never do what they say/promise. What they actually did was submit electors that were not voted for. They tried to remove, add, and change votes. They tried to change laws without going through the legal process. They used government resources to achive the overthrowing of democracy.

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      I mean, lying is an action that we also shouldn’t tolerate. Though I agree there are bigger things to focus on right now.