At CinemaCon this year, the Motion Picture Association Chairman and CEO Charles Rivkin said the organization is going to work with Congress to establish and enforce a site-blocking legislation in the United States.
Fact is a lot of wealthy executives are certainly white, and they’re comfortable pointing that out.
I agree with you that you should never use race in a negative context, like if in a similar sentence you wouldn’t replace white with another race, don’t use it.
Never make fun of people for things they can’t change, instead target their behavior and choices.
In this case the executives are making stupid, ignorant choices about a system they don’t understand. That’s more than enough to work with.
Folks here thrive on division while calling for the end of it.
So we have to endure all these dubious “stats” about black people and crime but suddenly when we say “white billionaires” a line is crossed?
Something like 90% of American billionaires are white men. That is a fact and it’s relevant. White men enjoy more power and privilege on average than any other demographic in the US.
What did I say that was racist? That 90% of billionaires in the US are white men? How is that racist?
I talk about low income families a ton in my work. We talk about the demographic breakdowns. Is that racist?
There are facts that fall along racial lines. It’s how you deploy them where things get racist. Stating a demographic is more represented at a certain income level is 100% absolutely in no way racist.
Edit: 74% of the house is white, almost 90% of the senate is white. Over 70% of the house is male, over 75% of the senate is male. In the GOP all these numbers are even higher. These are demographic facts. How is any of this racist?
No, scientific, statistical, academic study of different groups is obviously not racist. It’s important.
I said your comment about black crime is racist, as those who say it are not doing so academically, or genuinely.
Edit You’re so close to getting what I am saying, you’re clearly.just.looking for a fight.
Demographic science and work to elevate the oppressed is obviously important. Whatever race or income or origin or whatever else.
Flippant divisive race splitting in a non academic setting (as this is) is just that, divisive.
Edit edit
To be clear, the point is it isn’t their age or their race that makes them ignorant, greedy fools trying to hoard content and disrupt normal consumers.
Same as it isn’t their race that makes black folks over represented in crime “stats”. It’s decades of geofencing, redlining, racism at every turn, reduction of economic opportunity, and so so much more.
Talk about the system that builds these people, and their actions. And most importantly, where we go from here. The greed that makes these executives, the oppression that makes criminals in your referenced “stats”. Criticize that.
You’re so close to getting what I am saying, you’re clearly.just.looking for a fight.
Don’t patronize me.
To be clear, the point is it isn’t their age or their race that makes them ignorant, greedy fools trying to hoard content and disrupt normal consumers.
White men enjoy more power and privilege on average
Talking about billionaires in one sentence and then average people in the next makes one wonder if maybe you’re conflating the power of class with race. Considering identity politics is a tool of capital used to divide us I think these are distinct issues.
They are literally the largest demographic in Congress by a large margin, they’ve been literally every US president except 1, have dominated the Supreme Court bench, and comprise 90% of American billionaires. White men also are treated better on average by law enforcement, as decades of studies have proven.
By what definition is that not “more power and privilege”? Are you actually arguing that acknowledging privilege and political power is now racist?
This is blatant concern trolling and I won’t indulge it. You are sorely mistaken.
You are now blatantly assigning the power of billionaires to average white men and that’s just ridiculous. It’s like when people are so keen to point out that women were disenfranchised for so long while ignoring that the majority of men were also disenfranchised for most of that period.
No, you’re not, as evidenced by your other replies.
“This” refers to not invoking race as a negative adjective about someone, and instead solely focusing on their actions and choices.
I am not suggesting we live in a society where there aren’t racial or class or age disparities in so many meaningful ways, but I’m just point out that the way it’s used here is not productive.
Are you saying America doesn’t suffer from ongoing systemic racism? Most of the ‘upper class’ as it were are old and white because of the racism inherent in the system. Pretending it’s not there and calling someone a racist when talking about it is nothing more then concern trolling.
In America? Yes. White people enjoy privileges marginalized groups do not. Almost every billionaire in the US is a white male. It’s something like 90% last I checked despite being 30% of the population. That is so wildly disproportionate even you can’t deny it’s eyebrow raising.
Do you get this upset when people generalize about black people?
I wasn’t upset to begin with. Was it not obvious that I was making a semantics joke? I mean, sure, the post I was replying to could be perceived as racist, since it was itself a reply to someone calling out racism, but it was clearly directed at wealth holders, not white people.
You noticed the racist undertones in my post?! You must be a racist!
Lemme see if I understand your logic: I’m racist because I called out the racism in your post.
Does that make you extra racist for calling out my apparent racism?
Seriously, though, I shouldn’t have to say this, but apparently I do: the way to fight racism isn’t more racism. And the real villain isn’t systemic racism, anyway - it’s wealth inequality. Is a black billionaire a better person than a white billionaire simply due to their race? No, of course not. Even suggesting such a thing is overtly racist.
Punching on things people can’t change isn’t punching up or down. It’s just racist.
Punch on the fact that they are wealthy executives out of touch with technology, trying to build an “own nothing” rental economy. That’s more than enough.
When did I say race makes people behave a certain way? Don’t give me that “I told you I’ll use quotes” bullshit. When did I say that? If I didn’t, say “you didn’t say that.” If I did, quote it. Otherwise fuck off troll.
Exactly! Why SHOULD we describe the People BUYING POLITICIANS as White? It’s not like White Supremacists are Claiming White people hold NO POWER in Amerikkka!
If a black man commits a crime, the news and pundits say they’re a black male. Why should white men buying politicians - which is ostensibly a crime - be exempt?
Why bring race into it?
Why does “a bunch of old white guys” so aptly describe them in such a massively diverse country?
These concern trolls have no clue what you’re saying dude
Folks here are not interested in this.
Fact is a lot of wealthy executives are certainly white, and they’re comfortable pointing that out.
I agree with you that you should never use race in a negative context, like if in a similar sentence you wouldn’t replace white with another race, don’t use it.
Never make fun of people for things they can’t change, instead target their behavior and choices.
In this case the executives are making stupid, ignorant choices about a system they don’t understand. That’s more than enough to work with.
Folks here thrive on division while calling for the end of it.
So we have to endure all these dubious “stats” about black people and crime but suddenly when we say “white billionaires” a line is crossed?
Something like 90% of American billionaires are white men. That is a fact and it’s relevant. White men enjoy more power and privilege on average than any other demographic in the US.
You shouldn’t. That’s racist too. 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
Behold the race division the system is infecting your brain with.
What did I say that was racist? That 90% of billionaires in the US are white men? How is that racist?
I talk about low income families a ton in my work. We talk about the demographic breakdowns. Is that racist?
There are facts that fall along racial lines. It’s how you deploy them where things get racist. Stating a demographic is more represented at a certain income level is 100% absolutely in no way racist.
Edit: 74% of the house is white, almost 90% of the senate is white. Over 70% of the house is male, over 75% of the senate is male. In the GOP all these numbers are even higher. These are demographic facts. How is any of this racist?
No, scientific, statistical, academic study of different groups is obviously not racist. It’s important.
I said your comment about black crime is racist, as those who say it are not doing so academically, or genuinely.
Edit You’re so close to getting what I am saying, you’re clearly.just.looking for a fight.
Demographic science and work to elevate the oppressed is obviously important. Whatever race or income or origin or whatever else.
Flippant divisive race splitting in a non academic setting (as this is) is just that, divisive.
Edit edit
To be clear, the point is it isn’t their age or their race that makes them ignorant, greedy fools trying to hoard content and disrupt normal consumers.
Same as it isn’t their race that makes black folks over represented in crime “stats”. It’s decades of geofencing, redlining, racism at every turn, reduction of economic opportunity, and so so much more.
Talk about the system that builds these people, and their actions. And most importantly, where we go from here. The greed that makes these executives, the oppression that makes criminals in your referenced “stats”. Criticize that.
Don’t patronize me.
You’re right. When did I say that? Quote me.
Lol I’m done with you you’re just looking to fight
Edit I made my point clear.
When I quote you, I’ll use punctuation.
Edit edit The point you quoted from me is MY point.
So citation: fuckin me
I have no clue how to parse this comment. Did you quote me? What is this dross about punctuation?
Talking about billionaires in one sentence and then average people in the next makes one wonder if maybe you’re conflating the power of class with race. Considering identity politics is a tool of capital used to divide us I think these are distinct issues.
They are literally the largest demographic in Congress by a large margin, they’ve been literally every US president except 1, have dominated the Supreme Court bench, and comprise 90% of American billionaires. White men also are treated better on average by law enforcement, as decades of studies have proven.
By what definition is that not “more power and privilege”? Are you actually arguing that acknowledging privilege and political power is now racist?
This is blatant concern trolling and I won’t indulge it. You are sorely mistaken.
You are now blatantly assigning the power of billionaires to average white men and that’s just ridiculous. It’s like when people are so keen to point out that women were disenfranchised for so long while ignoring that the majority of men were also disenfranchised for most of that period.
Agreed
I’m here and I’m interested in this. You do not speak for all of us.
No, you’re not, as evidenced by your other replies.
“This” refers to not invoking race as a negative adjective about someone, and instead solely focusing on their actions and choices.
I am not suggesting we live in a society where there aren’t racial or class or age disparities in so many meaningful ways, but I’m just point out that the way it’s used here is not productive.
When did I say those things?
When I quote you, I’ll use quotes. Second time I’ve told you that.
So you don’t have any comments to point to is what I’m hearing. This is the third time I’ve suggested that.
If you’re going to accuse me of saying things then point to when I said them or fuck off.
I’ve clearly made my point.
When I accuse you of something, I’ll say so.
Because it’s both relevant and descriptive. Punching up is fucking fine. Eat billionaires.
So what, they’re somehow above you just because they’re white? I thought Lemmy was free of white supremacists, but I guess not.
Are you saying America doesn’t suffer from ongoing systemic racism? Most of the ‘upper class’ as it were are old and white because of the racism inherent in the system. Pretending it’s not there and calling someone a racist when talking about it is nothing more then concern trolling.
In America? Yes. White people enjoy privileges marginalized groups do not. Almost every billionaire in the US is a white male. It’s something like 90% last I checked despite being 30% of the population. That is so wildly disproportionate even you can’t deny it’s eyebrow raising.
Do you get this upset when people generalize about black people?
I wasn’t upset to begin with. Was it not obvious that I was making a semantics joke? I mean, sure, the post I was replying to could be perceived as racist, since it was itself a reply to someone calling out racism, but it was clearly directed at wealth holders, not white people.
Out of all the descriptions I put into my response you only picked out the racist undertones, racist.
Lemme see if I understand your logic: I’m racist because I called out the racism in your post.
Does that make you extra racist for calling out my apparent racism?
Seriously, though, I shouldn’t have to say this, but apparently I do: the way to fight racism isn’t more racism. And the real villain isn’t systemic racism, anyway - it’s wealth inequality. Is a black billionaire a better person than a white billionaire simply due to their race? No, of course not. Even suggesting such a thing is overtly racist.
It’s because they’re white billionaires and not just white.
Edgy
Punching on things people can’t change isn’t punching up or down. It’s just racist.
Punch on the fact that they are wealthy executives out of touch with technology, trying to build an “own nothing” rental economy. That’s more than enough.
I don’t choose to be a white male but I recognize the power and privilege it gives me. Otherwise I’m just entitled.
Obviously. But your race doesn’t make you behave a certain way. Your past experience, and current needs and wants do.
When did I say race makes people behave a certain way? Don’t give me that “I told you I’ll use quotes” bullshit. When did I say that? If I didn’t, say “you didn’t say that.” If I did, quote it. Otherwise fuck off troll.
Exactly! Why SHOULD we describe the People BUYING POLITICIANS as White? It’s not like White Supremacists are Claiming White people hold NO POWER in Amerikkka!
If a black man commits a crime, the news and pundits say they’re a black male. Why should white men buying politicians - which is ostensibly a crime - be exempt?