For example, I personally can’t listen to Guns and Roses without immediately thinking “that Axl sure is an asshole”, and that sours the entire experience.

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Yes I do this very easily. I listen to music and don’t spend any time at all learning about the artists.

  • Sal@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    3 months ago

    To an extent I can, like Axl is a complicated one given his mental health issues. Nothing excuses his behaviour but he seems to have grown as a person and managed to somewhat control his shittier side.

    But there’s definitely a line. I can’t really enjoy rammstein or die antwoord anymore

      • Sal@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Turns out Lindemann is quite rapey, and Die Antwoord had this whole (alleged) sex slavery thing with an Australian rapper.

        Seems often they’re not just making up their lyrics after all but singing from experience

        • fiat_lux@kbin.social
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          3 months ago

          Die antwoord also adopted, abused and abandoned an albino African child, Tokkie, who spoke out a few years ago. They’re truly awful and Tokkie’s documentary is worth watching.

          Also Marilyn Manson has been evicted from my music library for sexual abuse. I have no interest in supporting known exploiters, and I can’t listen to their music without thinking about how awful they are as people. No regrets, there’s plenty more musicians out there worth my time.

  • Extras@lemmy.today
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    3 months ago

    Yeah I can. Gonna get a bit hippie on you here but it really comes down to how the art make you feel and not the artist. One personal example is jeepers creepers for me. I love that movie but victor salva is a POS that deserves to be castrated. Now another question you should ask yourself is the actual companies behind the media could be evil too, overworking their employees, underpaying them, etc…, are you going to stop watching it? A good example of this is the anime industry or some record producers

  • CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I can live with artists having different views/believes/opinions, but when it comes to actions they did, then it’s a different story for me.

    E.g. I don’t enjoy Rammstein anymore

  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    If I like the song then I don’t care who the artist is but if I really don’t like the artist and feel so strongly about it that I want to make a statement then I simply don’t listen to them.

  • Delphia@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I mean, theres 3 categories for giving them a pass on their transgressions (as a fan, not legally or morally speaking) IMO.

    1. The art/performance was just so far beyond good that you cant deny the cultural significance. E.g Michael Jackson, Elvis, Tupac.

    2. You had a personal connection to the art before they did the shitty thing or before it came to light. (In my case: early Chris Brown, Kid Rock) They were big in my late teens and early 20s and I have positive memories associated with their songs. Not the percieved quality of the art.

    3. They had their day in court, did their time and time has passed. E.g Mark Wahlberg, I dont know the guy, I dont know if he is a good person or not these days. But the last documented occasion of him being a huge violent racist asshole is 1992… 32 years ago.

    • acetanilide@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      This is great. It’s not perfect, but it’s great. It feels like an impossible task but it feels more possible with a structure like this.

    • Lmaydev@programming.dev
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      3 months ago

      Yeah there’s definitely a line there for me.

      I don’t care if they are an asshole. They’re just people at the end of the day.

      But I can’t listen to lost prophets or Gary glitter.

      • Lad@reddthat.com
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        3 months ago

        Same. I listen to a few bands that have had a member accused of sexual assault and of emotional abuse.

        But Lostprophets are beyond tainted because Watkins is one of the most deranged convicted paedos in British legal history. It’s impossible for me to separate his music from his utterly sick crimes. Gary Glitter is up there too.

    • jecht360@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      This is the first band that came to mind when I saw this thread. Even though I liked their music when it came out, I would feel gross listening to it now.

  • blarth@thelemmy.club
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    3 months ago

    Billy Corgan is that guy for me. He comes off as a total asshole in every interview I’ve listened to him give.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      Unless you’re around your more sanctimonious friends, then you can but you’ll never hear the end of it, and they won’t apologize when, after deriding you for hours, it turns out Bob Dylan wasn’t even in the same country at the time he was accused of committing those improprieties.

  • klemptor@startrek.website
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    3 months ago

    Generally I don’t have a hard time separating the art from the artist. And it’s probably bad and selfish, but if I had to stop listening to David Bowie, Eric Clapton, and John Lennon, I’d be so depressed. The world is deeply shitty, so I’m hanging on to whatever happiness I can find. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • kyle@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        Eric Clapton is super racist, John Lennon abandoned his kid.

          • kyle@lemm.ee
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            3 months ago

            I had to look this up, didn’t know about Bowie. He had underage groupies, at least as young as 15 (Lori Mattix). Apparently she remembers that time fondly, but today we would rightly call it coercion and pedophilia. She was treated kindly, probably given all the drugs she “wanted”, but that’s still a child.

            There’s a counter argument about how later in life, he refused a kissing scene between him and Jennifer Connelly during Labyrinthe, and that shows he understands the age gap is wrong.

            I don’t regularly listen to David Bowie. I can sometimes separate the art from artist, but I’m now gonna have trouble knowing he was having sex with (raping) a 15 year old girl.

  • mojo_raisin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    If it makes sense to consider the artist’s actions and morality, it makes just as much sense to consider that of the producers et. al.

    That leaves us with virtually no content tho.

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Just today I wanted to show a friend UnDeadwood, a western horror one shot by the critical role crew, and learned they’ve removed ALL content with Brian W. Foster because he turned out to be an abusive piece of shit. I understand it on a certain level, but at the same time that’s an INSANE amount of actually amazing content just gone because one dude turned out to be a piece of shit.