• StarServal@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, I agree with them. Ranked Choice voting is extremely confusing. First you have to rank the candidates in the order you prefer to win, then…oh wait, no. It’s really not confusing at all.

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      1 year ago

      But these poor black people can’t count to five!

      How fucking patronizing.

      As a citizen of a country with ranked choice voting the hardest thing is choosing which of the loonies you want to put last!

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        Is it patronizong if it’s backed by data? The article discusses how they’re not just claiming it’s confusing for these districts out of nothing, they’re pointing to existing voting data that shows when there are multiple seats to fill for the same position, such as City Council seats, voters in these districts neglect to cast votes for the additional seats at a higher rate than other districts. “Undervoting” it’s apparently called.

        This is a horrifically self-serving bullshit “solution” to this problem, but there does appear to be a real problem that ought to be addressed as part of a ranked-choice rollout.

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          Sounds like there just needs to be a little bit of voter education rather than scrapping the whole thing.

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      I would need to see the ballot to say for sure, but the article lists this example:

      “The lawsuit notes that in elections for at-large seats on the DC city council — where voters can currently choose two candidates — voters in Wards 7 and 8 are less likely to cast a second vote, a phenomenon known as “undervoting.””

      So, when presented with a relatively simple “Vote For Two” choice, Ward 7 and 8 are less likely to vote for a second person.

      If that’s a problem, then the idea of not only voting for multiple people, but ranking them 1-2-3, may be a big issue.

      Remember, back in 2000 Florida voters struggled with the butterfly ballot.

      But in the end, this could be solved by a combination of education, clear instructions, and an easy to understand ballot design.

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        I get this in theory but it gave me the hilarious mental image of someone gathering their phone, keys, wallet, going to their local polling station, showing their ID, walking to the voting machine, then thinking, “Oh no, I’m allowed to vote for TWO people?” and immediately bolting out the door.

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        It’s a design and execution problem, not a voter problem. The Florida ballots had a stupid design that met the needs of a counting machine, not the needs of voters

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          Pretty sure it was less about the machine snd more about intentionally confusing older voters to pull votes from Gore and add them to Buchanan…

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        Maybe the second candidate was s*** and nobody wanted to vote for them? Or maybe voters really only wanted the one person.

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          Or, and I think this is more likely, people are used to the idea of marking more than one name invalidating the ballot.

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            You think that’s more likely huh? But somehow only in those two heavily minority districts? What are you basing that on?

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              I don’t think it’s just in those minority districts. The article states that it’s WORSE in those districts, that doesn’t mean it’s not a problem elsewhere.

              Maybe they need to put “Vote for Two” in bold or a bigger font or something. Like I said at the top, it’s hard to tell without seeing the ballot design.

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      No, it’s only confusing for people in predominantly black areas! Wait… this statement seems problematic…