• CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Bethesda has done a great deal to discourage all modding efforts for the last couple years and they‘ll continue to do so until people stop buying their broken piece of code for an excuse of software. Which might happen sooner than later because the state of their games was always highly dependent on modders to fix everything constantly and there are fewer of them every day because of Bethesda’s incredible streak of ignorant decisions.

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      If they’re arrogant enough to think they can survive without the modders, let them die, I say. Fuck around and find out.

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          Frankly I don’t care for the delusions of the other comments, whatever they may be. The comment I responded to was on the subject of the questionable decisions Bugthesda has made recently, evidenced in abundance with Starfield in regards to making even the modder’s “job” difficult. Whether they’re actively hindering Fallout: London or not changes nothing, especially not the fact they’re a bunch of incompetent hacks, criminals and liars.

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      Maybe read the article. I know it’s too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read the article.

      “Before you grab the pitchforks to go after Bethesda or tell us that we’re idiots and you know how to stop the update – remember, that’s you know how to do it, not the collective. This is a collective project; we want everyone to have the past four years of work to come out and be the best mod possible for all of our followers. We want to incorporate this special mod that we’ve created for everyone.”

      “The fact that Bethesda is keeping what is an old game updated is honestly a great thing – many members of the team are very excited to see this,” he notes. “On the technical front, being able to play Fallout London with the new potential engine improvements and the performance upgrades is fantastic. It’s going to mean that we can push the engine even harder than we’ve already pushed it. This is all going to be a boon.”

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        With all the AI generated garbage flooding text-based news, I didn’t bother reading it either. It’s a waste of my time 90% of the time.

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          Mate, if you cared about your time, you wouldn’t argue on Lemmy under a post about something you didn’t even read.

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            I did read it. I said I wouldn’t blame him for not reading it given how much garbage is getting published.

            But y’all love getting on your high horse over false assumptions 🤷‍♀️

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              I did read it. But y’all love getting on your high horse over false assumptions 🤷‍♀️

              I didn’t bother reading it either

              🤡 🤡 🤡

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                Lmao fair, I didn’t read it at first. I did read it after the first guy responded, though, and I assumed you responded to something further down the chain

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              So your plan is just to read headlines and make assumptions? I’m sure that will give you a much clearer insight into things.

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                We literally had to create a bot to cut out all of the fluff in articles to make news these days more digestible.

                Maybe read the previous comment. I know it’s too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read the entire comment.

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              I’ve seen tons of them. I never denied the issue. It’s real, and it’s very annoying. But using the fact that AI generated articles exist to justify spouting uninformed opinions based on nothing but a headline is ridiculous.

              Instead of reading a headline, assuming it means what you think it does and being wrong, then writing a comment based on that wrong opinion, you could at least glance at the article. You have enough time to write an angry comment, you can’t spend 10 seconds glancing at the article to see if it has any info that the 5 word headline might not have covered?

              Or alternatively, if it’s such an imposition, then just don’t comment.

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                Lmao you didn’t even stop to read who you’re talking to. I’m not the one who wrote the opinion, and I said as much in my first comment. I don’t even agree with the guy.

                At least now the downvotes make sense. Y’all are just having a reddit moment.

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                  The only one having a reddit moment is you mate, instead of admitting you posted a dumb comment because you didnt bother reading an article and didnt understand the context you keep pushing forwards attaking everyone. is it that hard saying: “hey, i’m wrong, i didnt read the article so i understood something different.”? What is funnier is that you are not even the original op, but you obviously had the same thought process and felt attacked by being at that same level.

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                    All I said was I wouldn’t blame him given the garbage state of news articles these days, and you guys took that opportunity to put words in my mouth so y’all could get on your high horse. And you’re still doing it after I said “I don’t even agree with the guy” lmao. If there ever was a “reddit moment” it’s this.

                    It’s also really funny how you wrote this as if I was the other guy, then had to edit in the last bit to make it seem like you didn’t jump to a conclusion after only reading the last sentence of my comment. The irony here is hilarious.

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                  I saw that you were a different person, I don’t see how that’s relevant. You chimed in saying you also didn’t read the article because of your opinion that most articles now are AI generated nonsense not worth consuming. Nothing in your first comment said you didn’t agree with him at all.

                  I’d get it if the guy you replied to said “read the article, it’s super interesting!” and then you said “I didn’t read it because most text articles are AI generated nonsense so maybe that’s why they didn’t bother either” to add perspective.

                  But that wasn’t what happened. The OP spouted a nonsense opinion based off what he thought was going on, which was wrong, the next guy told him to read the article before running his mouth, and you chimed in to say “who reads articles, it’s all AI generated nonsense anyways now” which to me, comes off as a defense of spouting uninformed bullshit based off zero information.

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                    "Maybe read the article. I know it’s too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read the article."

                    I’d get it if the guy you replied to said “read the article, it’s super interesting!” and then you said “I didn’t read it because most text articles are AI generated nonsense so maybe that’s why they didn’t bother either” to add perspective.

                    🤦‍♀️ “I’d get it if the guy you replied to said exactly what he said.”

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        Thank you for posting this. I was thinking that in a day when so many companies are pulling digital products, not pushing updates, and blaming consumers, that it was pretty damn cool of Bethesda to be updating anything outside a cash shop. Fallout 4 is (sorry everyone haha), 9 years old. Literally no one would bat an eye if they never touched the game again. Yeah, they have their own issues, though this is 100% a W and should be applauded.

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      Skyrim is one of the best selling games in history. A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles, where mod availability is limited. This whole concept of modders being the only thing making Bethesda’s games successful is quite exaggerated, IMO.

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        A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles

        Well it has been released on every major console since the 360/PS3 era. So a major chunk is console sales.

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        Mods are definitely the one thing giving their games longevity, nobody would be still playing Skyrim or Fallout 4 nowadays if it wasn’t for the plethora of mods. In fact I feel kind of sorry for people playing on console, because the vanilla experience is just mediocre as fuck.

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          I won’t deny that mods extend their longevity. I’m just saying that there are plenty of gamers who are content with the vanilla games. Hell, Skyrim was an immediate success at launch, long before much of its mods came into existence. Same with Fallout 3 and 4. I’d argue the open world sandbox-esque design of the games are the main thing that give them longevity for the majority of players, similar to how tons of people still casually play any of the GTA games (and not just their online mode). Hell, most of the time when I see random social media posts for FO4, it’s the vanilla game with people just showing off their crazy settlement builds.

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          terrible. just terrible. im still playing skyrim and fo4 without mods. 99% of my playthroughs are vanilla. i have single handedly proved your comment wrong 🍷🧐

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        Mods might not make them successful, but they do make the games actually playable and enjoyable, especially as each new release has more never-to-be-fixed bugs than the last.

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          I wonder why are you being downvoted considering the first mods in any list are performance and bug fixes lol