• Fades@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Actually, so fucking many species of fish are disappearing from nature’s rivers and streams because of things like poisonous chemicals/pesticides.

    The fish hobby is a way to preserve nature. Take it from Heiko Blehr, a researcher who literally wrote the book for caring for many of the most famous and sensitive fish like discus and has traveled the world many times over and discovered thousands of new fish species.

    Here is a great documentary on him and how he does it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3KccNiFIVQ

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      4 months ago

      Axolotls are nearly if not already extinct in the wild. Hobbyists and researchers are the only thing keeping them in existence. Everyone adores seeing my axolotls and get emotionally invested in them almost immediately, which provides a very tangible in person thing for them to think about. It’s a good jumping off point for talking about what’s happening with lakes and rivers.

      There are some things we shouldn’t take from the wild. Like I believe sourcing completely natural live rock is unethical as corals have it hard enough and it’s super easy to farm our own live rock. Some things it’s fine and can even help preserve them or teach people about conservation. I learned so much back when I took care of a marine tank. I have a much stronger understanding of how intricate and fragile our ecosystem can be and people should be allowed to learn and see that for themselves

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        4 months ago

        But captive axolotls are not really true axolotls, they are different from the near extinct wild ones (they have a bit of tiger salamander mixed in). And this really only holds true if people breed their wild-caught aquatic animals - otherwise you are just grabbing a living being from its home and putting it in a tiny cage. There is a place for wild caught fish, but it doesn’t seem very kind to remove them from their habitat to languish in an aquarium for a fraction of their normal lifespan, which is undoubtedly what happens a lot…

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      4 months ago

      what about the boring fish? the non flashy or special ones who have cartoons made about them or some niche scientist’s interest? you’ll still eat those right?

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      4 months ago

      Leaving them in nature to die and keeping them “safe” by preserving them in captivity is 2 sides of the same coin. Either way their natural lives have been robbed from them.

      Not saying we should do nothing but just keep every species alive in special zoos and aquariams sounds dystopian and it feels like a stretch to call keeping animals in captivity “preserving nature”.