• CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 months ago

    If it’s a totally subjective opinion, no. You can like food I don’t, or even have kinks I don’t.

    If it’s even slightly fact-based, kind of yes, unless you keep it entirely to yourself. I don’t have to agree with it to respect it, though, if you have any reasonable kind of argument.

    Like someone else said, in practice nobody actually cares what I respect.

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    I respect facts and objective evidence. Opinion is immaterial.

    Otherwise, there is no point to it.

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      Unfortunately there are many subjects where all the facts aren’t known, therefore opinions must be discussed to advance the understanding and ultimately help to establish future facts. Also, one person’s believed facts may be a misunderstanding, for example, hence why discussions and arguments may happen.

      As such, there is (nearly) always a point to it!

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        I don’t subscribe to the notion of opinion being equated to hypothesis.

        I also don’t believe in facts. A fact simply is.

        Opinions are held beliefs that are usually founded in how a person feels about a subject. I see no reason in respecting a belief. I can respect a person, when earned. But their opinions and beliefs are not anything I require to be respected. And I expect nothing less toward myself.

        It’s also why I tend to extricate myself from any argument people like to have. Because my experience has taught me that most people have no idea of what they speak, and when proven wrong in the face of objective fact, they double down on their beliefs.

        So I reiterate — there is no point without objective fact and evidence.

  • lemmyreader@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Depends on what it is about. We meet and you say :

    • You’re vegan. Good.
    • You use Linux. Good.
    • You’re on the Fediverse. Good.
    • You love bicycles. Good.

    Now we meet again and you talk about privacy and then ask for my WhatsApp number (which is non existing) to continue that conversation later -> The heat is on! 🔥

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    It depends on how harmful that opinion is. You prefer vanilla ice cream because you like the mild flavor - cool, difference of opinion. You prefer there were no same-sex marriages because your religion is against it - no, that affects other people’s lives so if you want me to respect that opinion you would have to have a good argument.

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    Depends on how consequential it is. If it’s about Taylor Swift it doesn’t matter, feel however you want, but if it’s about how society should be run than yeah you kinda do

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    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    If your opinion is that kittens are cute, I’m on board. If your opinion is that everyone over 30 should be sterilized unless they are in a top 10 percent earning category, you’re going to have to work for respect for that, and better have a damn convincing argument.

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        If you’re a vetted expert in the field in question. Yes, I’ll give your opinion weight. I e. The millions of scientists and doctors talking about vaccines.

        If you’re a chad who watched a YouTube video, no I’ll dismiss you as the idiot you are.

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          Would you like to take “the right to vote” away from those who’s opinions you do not respect?

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            why would i take the right to vote away from someone just because i don’t like how they think?

            if someone has the opinion that we should take away someones right to vote just because we don’t agree with them. that’s the group who i do not respect. i don’t respect the individual that thinks that way and i don’t respect their opinion.

  • Apollo42@lemmy.world
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    It depends on what your opinion is and what you mean by respect.

    If your opinion is not well explained or backed up by evidence/logic and isn’t something completely subjective, what is there to respect?

    If your opinion is reprehensible, downright stupid, or ignorant? You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?

    Your opinion is completely logical/uncontroversial or is well backed by evidence? Where does respect come into it?

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      I wanted to type something really snarky, but I’m trying to be better than that.

      So I refer you to the fact that you should still have respect for someone’s opinion even if they don’t have complete knowledge on it, or to put it your way “You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?”.

      People are allowed to have opinions that should be respected even though they don’t have complete knowledge of a subject

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    Not necessarily. If you have a lot of experience or a different perspective and you seem trustworthy to me, you don’t need to have a good argument. On the other hand, if someone else comes along with a good argument why your opinion is wrong, I will start doubting you.

    For example, if you’ve been growing potatoes for 30 years, you don’t have to explain the biochemistry of potatoes for me to respect your advice. And if you’re a black person telling me that our town is terribly racist, I will believe you without needing a list of every single racist incident that happened to you.

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    Depending on what you mean by respect and opinion, yes. If you’re discussing an opinion then someone is probably going to expect you to explain why, that’s a logical point to cover in any such discussion. Even if it’s subjective. If it’s an opinion on something objective, then there’s an actual burden of “proof” and possible consequences, and the stakes rise accordingly.

    There aren’t many reasons to “properly” respect an opinion that is irrational (not just subjective), factually wrong (“interpretation” only goes so far), dishonest, or anything like that. I’m skeptical of endorsing any opinion until I know why it is what it is.

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        But is it all chocolate, or just certain types? Would you feel the same biting into Godiva datk as you would 100% cacao? We demand answers!

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    No. Your beliefs, yes. Your opinions, not at all.

    But “respect” for a belief can have many meanings. I’m not going to try to change your beliefs unless you’re into that. So I’ll respect them in that sense. But I’m not going to adopt your beliefs or act them out just because you have them.

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      I do not respect your belief but I do respect you believing it. French law is very clear about the distinction