• GuStJaR@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I hate these lists. Almost all of these are completely normal. Stop trying to diagnose yourselves. There are more people who do most of things on this list than people who do none. Does that mean most people have ADHD?

    Edited: removed the swearing. There was no need for it. I still stand behind the sentiment.

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      Well, mental disorders are spectrums. It’s not either you’re completely sane or you’re the mayor of cuckoo town. It goes in shades.

      If you identify with five or so items on that list of 21, that’s fine. You’re still in the “nornal” zone. If you identify with 16, like I do, that’s ADHD. And I do have an official diagnosis from an actual psychiatrist, thank you very much.

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      Up until recently i thought of myself as a neurotypical person who just happened to find ADHD content relatable. How dare I, a run-of-the-mill idiot and fuck-up, appropriate a real mental disorder in an attempt to explain away all my flaws?

      Well anyway it turns out I have ADHD. So yeah, everyone may relate to these things every once in a while. But if you’re reading this and you find A LOT of these things relatable, and they happen often, and you can think of lots of examples of times they have caused you major problems, and you feel a lot of shame and guilt about the whole thing, I would encourage you to get checked out.

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      11 months ago

      Ah, the old Everyone does this argument.

      Yes, but to what extent? How severe is it? That’s the important part that neither you nor this list touch on.

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      I mean. A lot of people have ADHD. Most of them don’t know or are in denial. So… yeah that list makes sense.

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      11 months ago

      All of this is completely normal, yes. However, frequency and intensity are typically the separating factors between neurotypicals and those diagnosed with ADHD.

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      11 months ago

      Here’s a question: What if, say, you’ve already been diagnosed, and you enjoy relating to other people who have the same issues as you? Just a thought.

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      Yeah, whenever I see ADHD memes I immediately go: Fuck, that happens to me all the time.

      Like exactly half the list is applicable to me.

      Then I do some more research into symptoms and when it comes to the main ones I go: Nah, I don’t have that problem at all (like being tardy).

      This is like asking health questions on the internet, the answer will always be cancer.

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        11 months ago

        You don’t have to be chronically late to be diagnosed with ADHD. I am never later for anything, but that’s due to some good coping mechanisms I learned over the years (that basically amount to “do nothing before the event and leave an hour early”)

        It’s possible to have ADHD and good coping mechanisms that mean you don’t meet every single hyperspecific criteria on a list like this. Hell, you might even cope so well that you didn’t get bad grades in school. The diagnostic criteria looks for focus deficiency, executive dysfunction, impulsivity, restlessness, poor working memory. There are standardized tests for this.

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        You said it 1/2 the list applies to you. Okay. For me 100% of the list applies. And each point have been a specific trait of my life.

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        Yeah I did the same, then I looked into the DSM V and read the symptoms and went… uh… yep! More attention deficit than hyperactivity for me but yeah, it started with memes

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        11 months ago

        The reason places like WebMD tell you that you might have cancer is so you go see a real doctor. It’s not because it thinks you probably have cancer, but because you shouldn’t rely on WebMD if there’s even a small chance you might.

        So if lists like these create false positives, I’m okay with it. It means some people with ADHD will finally get help and live their best lives. It means people with some signs of ADHD, but not enough for a full diagnosis, might still find value in the techniques people with ADHD use to deal with those symptoms. And even in the case of people with no issue whatsoever, it’s just good to take your mental health seriously.

        And hey, even if none of that mattered, there’s still a huge stigma around mental health and neurodiversity. If it helps people understand what ADHD people are going through (“It’s like this common experience, but to a high level on a frequent basis”), that’s good too.

    • octoperson@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      Self is an illusion. We’re all just a product of our brain chemistry and experience. Don’t sweat it.

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        11 months ago

        No. If you think you’re “just a product of (y)our brain chemistry”, you’re selling yourself short. There’s a “you” in that meat-sac, so keep throwing levers and pushing buttons. You fly the ship. 🤌🏼

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          Nuh-uh. I’m just a character an ape made up while it was pretending to be a person. You can be a transcendent being and mecha pilot your body around if you like. You can construct your sense of self however you like. That was my point. Our buddy upthread could be the very embodiment of the DSM criteria for ADHD, and that would still be a valid way to be a person.

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    11 months ago

    I finally went in for an adult diagnosis yesterday and this is pretty much the entire checklist they went through.

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      I go in 2 months and cannot wait. I feel like my mind is in a fog and it’s only getting worse as I get older.

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        Same (re: mind dog fog), unfortunately for me treatment hasn’t helped. But I’ve also discovered CFS (chronic fatigue syndrome) as another route to investigate.

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            Hm, I’ll bring it up but I’m not certain on it. My pain is pretty easy to tie to my garboard discs and my symptoms predate my chronic pain. But I also have high pain tolerance so may not have noticed. Thanks for the suggestion.

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    11 months ago

    Mindwandering while conversation/ sex was always annoying to me. I never understood why i am doing this and how to turn it off, cause “everyone else seems to get it right” and they made me feel bad for it.

    It is importaint to talk about these stuff and reach out to people, who feel the same way.

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    I have all of these (except the erectile dysfunction)and I’d wager 80 of the pop also does. there is no way all of us can have ADHD

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      A fair few of them can be caused by other things too, or are just one of the “normal traits” ADHD exaggerates. 9, 12, 13, 15 could be caused by stress/burnout, for example.

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          My mind drifts during sex often, which has definite benefits. I assumed the lists thing was a joke but I do things in the same manner. My wife calls it “sorting”.

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    11 months ago

    ATTENTION: 4 can be because of autism and there’s an insanely high number of comorbidities between ADHD and autism

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        Correct.

        I’m not sure of your point, but mine is that these things are more general than they seem. For example I could say trouble connecting with people or being a shut-in is a SzPD (Schizoid Personality Disorder) thing… while they are, it could be equally true for people with autism for different (or not by much) reasons.

        Sap someone’s energy/mood and a lot of relatable problems will pop up, it doesn’t matter if it’s physical or mental or an indirect symptom of something else.

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    Interesting. I figured I may have it but I’m barely half this list, loosely. I guess I’m just a lazy shit at work sometimes