This is so funny. The entire point of cryptocurrency was to be an irreversible, untraceable currency. Now these dipshits are sueing over losses? I don’t know if they are severely mistaken or severely angry. You are not getting that back. Neither do you deserve to. You knew what you were doing.
The first step is “Fuck the government!” The second step is always “Help me, Obi Wan Government, you’re my only hope!”
I deserve help from the government as I’ve done everything right and just been unfortunate. Its everyone else who have got into trouble entirely through their own doing that don’t deserve help.
Also: “why do things that happen to stupid people keep happening to me?”
I don’t really agree with this sentiment.
Are they dipshits?
Yes
Should Sothebys lose all credibility and be fined for faking an auction?
Also yes.
Should Bored Ape owners get any of their money back?
Naaaaaaaaaaaw
This crosses certain lines that are beyond just: huuuur crypto dumb
You forgot unregulated which usually even makes it to the front row in a lot of arguments completely denying the necessity to even have regulations at all…
I wasn’t supposed to be the sucker!
The amended lawsuit alleges that “Yuga colluded with fine arts broker, Defendant Sotheby’s, to run a deceptive auction.” After the sale, a Sotheby’s representative described the winning bidder during a Twitter Spaces event as a “traditional” collector, the lawsuit said.
The lawsuit said it turned out the auction buyer was now-bankrupt crypto exchange FTX, whose founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in jail awaiting trial on criminal charges. Ethereum blockchain transaction data shows that after the auction, “Sotheby’s transferred the lot of BAYC NFTs to wallet address 0xf8e0C93Fd48B4C34A4194d3AF436b13032E641F3,77 which, upon information and belief, is owned/controlled by FTX,” the complaint said. Speculation that FTX was the buyer had been percolating since at least January 2023.
So basically, they’re alleging Sotheby’s, Yuga, and FTX staged the auction to pump the price. Bold claim, curious how this will play out.
Isn’t pumping the price kinda the job of sotherbys/auctions?
I mean, they do have them on record lying about it, so not that bold.
Neither side of this looks good for crypto bros.
One side says, “This was a ripoff; you knew it was a ripoff when you sold it to us.”
The other side says, “This was a stunt; you knew it was a stunt when you bought in.”
"Yes your Honour, I knew it was a pyramid scheme. But I never thought I would be the last buyer. I always thought there would be another dumbass to buy it from me at a higher price, otherwise I wouldn’t have bought it in the first place. I’m not stupid, unlike those last buyers!
Moreover, your Honour, on a technical note, this is not a monkey. You see, a monkey is different from a monke, and both…"
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Sure, but when the very existence of the market depends on idiots losing money, we call that “fraud”.
The amended lawsuit alleges that “Yuga colluded with fine arts broker, Defendant Sotheby’s, to run a deceptive auction.” After the sale, a Sotheby’s representative described the winning bidder during a Twitter Spaces event as a “traditional” collector, the lawsuit said.
The lawsuit said it turned out the auction buyer was now-bankrupt crypto exchange FTX, whose founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in jail awaiting trial on criminal charges.
I don’t think it’s fair to pin this all on people who got duped. Calling FTX, a company now known for throwing around large sums of stolen money to pump up the brand, bribe government officials, and fix prices, a “traditional collector”, is beyond misleading.
Yeah fuck these stupid NFT scams but fuck FTX more. They knew what they were doing. They also are alleged to have been behind the giant Bitcoin price pump of 2021
lmao even they can never be a true investor
All of this NFT art is so ugly. If it was unique in a visually pleasing way—okay buy it. But to me, all of these images just look basically the same but with a new background or accessory.
Are there any actually good looking NFT series?
Every NFT I’ve seen looks like dogshit, and crypto enthusiasts get so angry when I point it out.
I have some that I didn’t pay for and they also look fkn stoopid. Like the artists are people who just discovered how to use Photoshop last week, but never learned how to draw
NFTs were doomed anyway because AI art can do such a better job than artists and completely flooded the market.
NFTs were doomed because of what they are.
Getty, the giant corporate image copywriting company, is essentially selling images with the same intent that NFTs were created for. The only difference is that once the image is sold on Getty, it’s actually sold. Finding another copy of the image is nearly impossible. The image then actually has value and most importantly, sole ownership.
I tried to find a photo I saw in a TV show and found they bought it from Getty. That photo is gone from the internet. Aquiring it would mean contacting the TV studio with the cash ready to buy the rights and use of it. They bought it for maybe $30. Buying it from them would be an astronomical price and would take a lot of work. Buying to resell would be a gamble on the shows long-term popularity.
So instead of buying an image outright, owning it forever, and having all control of it’s use, you could buy an NFT that anyone can download, claim you own it yet never be able to access the original file, and you don’t have any reasonable right to claim copyright. It’s just nonsense pump and dump bullshit.
Would I buy a pet rock? No, but that didn’t stop people from buying pet rocks.
Buying a pet rock, but the pet rock is somewhere in the ocean.
Like naming a star.
I did the nft thing. I’m in the black. I tell people not to get into nfts… And if you do only do it for the art, not to make money. There are plenty of dead or free NFTs out there that cost you nothing.
There are some really cool small projects out there with really interesting art… However, the mainstream only sees these fugly PFPs and all of the genuinely interesting stuff is buried because crypto bros don’t pump it.
A project I find interesting is “Loot” - it has its own ecosphere - it’s a just a series of inventory lists, but it serves as a background for other projects to build on. It’s not that the art is good - it’s literally white text on a black background - but the concept is interesting. Banners, Loot Explorers, Abstract loot are 3 projects I can think ff off hand
And before anyone comes in and responds “well I could do that” - yeah you could, but you didn’t, so yeah.
NFTs as they were presented are bullshit. I think there are more problems than solutions, however, I have seen some of the coolest digital art in this space.
If you want to chat more about the art side of things, hmu. I’m not interested in talking about eth or bitcoin or cryptocurrency - but I can help you find cool interesting projects that are working to try new things other than dumb looking monkeys.
This reads like a sponsored post
Please do not buy any NFTs. I was providing examples of things I liked. I am fully aware of how gross crypto is. I don’t do it anymore - I don’t like that I left other people holding the bag and made money.
If I knew what I know now, I wouldn’t have done what I did. I bought hype, but I also sold it.
I still thinkbthere is cool art in this space, but I don’t think anyone should engage in it beyond free things.
i don’t think you can sue for buying the losing ticket of crypto gambling
Bored Ape, in particular, was tried as an attempt to bring digital art into the fine art market to use as a tax dodge. If this case goes to court I hope it’s going to shine a big bright light on the fact that a lot of the fine arts market has been a giant tax dodge scam for decades. 🤞
Not that it’s been a secret, but exposure is good.
Poor Ape Rot Club.
Wish I could feel sorry, but so much of the NFT audience responded with such smugness and superiority to any warning and criticism, that it is hard to summon any other feeling than schadenfreude
We tried to warn them… Their fault.
But I like how quiet the cryptobros in my vicinity have been over the last year. Not a single one told me to buy crypto in a while.
I gotchu, fam. Buy XMR.
They were fungable after all!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Sotheby’s auction house has been named as a defendant in a lawsuit filed by investors who regret buying Bored Ape Yacht Club NFTs that sold for highly inflated prices during the NFT craze in 2021.
“Sotheby’s representations that the undisclosed buyer was a ‘traditional’ collector had misleadingly created the impression that the market for BAYC NFTs had crossed over to a mainstream audience,” the lawsuit claimed.
Investors previously sued Bored Ape creator Yuga Labs, four company executives, and various celebrity promoters including Paris Hilton, Gwyneth Paltrow, Kevin Hart, Snoop Dogg, Serena Williams, Madonna, Jimmy Fallon, Steph Curry, and Justin Bieber.
The lawsuit said it turned out the auction buyer was now-bankrupt crypto exchange FTX, whose founder Sam Bankman-Fried is in jail awaiting trial on criminal charges.
Ethereum blockchain transaction data shows that after the auction, “Sotheby’s transferred the lot of BAYC NFTs to wallet address 0xf8e0C93Fd48B4C34A4194d3AF436b13032E641F3,77 which, upon information and belief, is owned/controlled by FTX,” the complaint said.
“While the Executive Defendants made hundreds of millions of dollars, investors were left with NFTs worth a fraction of their artificially inflated value,” the original version of the complaint in December said.
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Wow who would’ve thought
Yeah. They really should’ve bought the lion!
Seriously though. This was so obvious right from the start. I can’t believe how gullible and naive people are.
2020’s the decade of the .jpg wars. Lmao.
“Do I look like I know what a jay-peg is? I just want a picture of a got dang hot dog!”
