• Struggleandgrunt@feddit.uk
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    4 months ago

    Incorrect, they are single sex wards not single gender wards. Females should be on a Female ward and Males on a Male ward which is correct if wards are decided based on sex and not gender.

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      4 months ago

      such a stupid thing to whine about. what if they got surgery and they are externally identical to a cis woman, do they still need to go in the ward for men? just let people be.

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      4 months ago

      “I’m going to reply to the trans person under the premise that they don’t understand sex and gender”

      The sentiment of my comment was a lot deeper than “conflating sex and gender”. The subtext was that single-sex wards where you are sorted by your AGAB are not trans (or intersex) inclusive, even if technically valid sorting criteria.

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        transgender people, whose gender identity differs from their biological sex, may be provided single rooms, where appropriate

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          So you consider “putting those weird other people in their own rooms away from the rest of us normals” to be inclusive? Its 1 step better than forcing them to be in a room full of people of the opposite gender, sure, but it sure as hell isn’t inclusive. Anyway, this conversation is over a week stale, I don’t care for it anymore. Have a nice life!

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      4 months ago

      That seems reasonable. I’m a transsexual female with female hormones and female genitalia, I was AMAB and I will be in the female ward along with my fellow females, thanks!

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        4 months ago

        You are not assigned male, you fall in the sex category male at birth. Sex is immutable and cannot be changed unlike gender, therefore in wards based on sex you will be put in a male ward. Unless as the article lays out you get your own room, which is the likely and most preferred outcome for all inpatients.

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          If you knew as much as you try to put on about biological sex, you’d know that’s its far, far more complicated than “male or female” and there are plenty of people who are assigned one thing at birth which doesn’t factually align with their biological sex. So yes, it is an assignment.

          I fail to see how a rational inpatient would give the slightest fuck if the girl a bed over from them had a cock when they were born so i dont know what preferred outcome they have in this, and I can speak as a trans person to the fact that it would not be my preferred outcome to be singled out and put in my own room. I’d choose it over being in the male ward, but its not my “preferred outcome”.