• MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    What? The only payments I make that could take checks are my bills and it’s not like I wouldn’t have to keep track of those just because I’m paying by check. I don’t understand this at all.

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      Yeah, I know this artist has gotten a lot of shit in the past for little reason, but this is truly an absurd take.

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      Pretty sure they mean one less account someone could track you with, because yeah, staying on top of sending monthly checks for stuff is something I’m very glad I don’t have to do anymore. My credit took multiple hits in my younger days from bills I forgot to pay on time.

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    I think checks are a thing of only American past. Can’t think of anywhere else where they used checks so frequently. While they existed, they were the exception

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      2 months ago

      If it’s any indication… the last time I ordered checks their website was littered with nuisance upsell popups that significantly hindered that task (felt kinda like Indiana Jones navigating booby traps), so I think the “check industry” (if that is a thing?) is getting desperate.

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        I had an apartment that switched payment processor that jacked up my credit card fee well above my cash back (prob cuz people like me ended up saving like 10/mo), so I just switched to bank issued checks that they send for me.

        Using the checkbook I got 20 years ago is just a massive pain in the ass.

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          Also, most all US small to mid sized business transactions are by check.

          I’m not going to take a suitcase with over $10,000 to the city to pay a permit fee, or $50,000 Venmo to pay a business partner.

          Unless you are in the marijuana industry, then you have to…

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            Also, most all US small to mid sized business transactions are by check.

            Why? It is a bank transfer with extra steps. A check can get unreadable, get lost… No one in Germany would write a check for a permit fee or to pay a business partner. You pay online. Fast, safe, can’t get lost, easy to proof what, when to whom you have paid for years to come. And the transfer won’t get through if you do not have money on your account or are allowed to overdraw, while you can write whatever you want on a check and then run.

            It is not cash or check it is bank transfer or check and the bank transfer is the safer, faster option. All they do at a bank is to scan the check and to turn it into the exact same bank transfer it could have been in the first place. All you do is adding a layer of risk by writing on a piece of paper.

            I find that really funny, because many Germans still refuse to buy their groceries without cash, many like me do not own a credit card only debit cards, but no one younger than 90 uses a check. I am 58 years old and have never owned checks.

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              I don’t know what to tell you, but I work in business in the US and work in invoicing in the construction industry.

              Everything is done via paper, full stop.

              Bank transfers do not generate invoices, full stop. Company to company payments are made using a PO or check. Nothing else, in my experience, are accepted.

              These are for amounts of $1 to tens of millions of $$$.

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    i feel kinda stupid. what do checks and online gaming accounts have to do with each other? do they accept checks as payment for access?

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    I still have a checkbook for the occasional handy man that doesn’t want cash or transfer. I’m pretty sure most apps take a cut from business accounts, and others will report to the IRS when you make a certain amount, so for some workers it makes sense to avoid the apps.

    Zelle is somehow the one that is usually free and does not report, but my credit union has a daily limit for Zelle transfers, so if the bill is larger, I offer payment in check as an alternative to cash since it’s safer.

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    I’m almost 50 years old and I’ve never used a check in my entire life.

    What is this old timey bullshit? Why not a burlap sack of fucking pieces of eight?

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      I’m almost 50 years old and I’ve never used a check in my entire life.

      How is this possible? How did you pay your bills before online billpay systems - did you pay them all by phone?

      I’m in my early 40s and still use checks now and then.

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        How is this possible? How did you pay your bills before online billpay systems - did you pay them all by phone?

        We had something called an ‘acceptgiro’, it was basically a pre-filled money transfer order. Usually the amount, beneficiary and some reference number were pre-printed. All you had to do was sign it and mail it to the bank (which usually was free, you had pre-paid envelopes from the bank). It was usually attached to the bill, basically a tear-off part of the bill that you signed, stuffed into an envelope and mailed.

        For recurring payments you usually give the other party ongoing permission to directly take it from your account. This is still extremely common and how I pay 99.999% of my bills. For things like mortgages, rent and insurance it’s usually required to pay in this way. Basically, my monthly bills get paid without me even having to think about it.

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          This is the answer. Here in this US checks are still widely used, and sometimes, thanks to processing fees, the only payment except cash someone will accept. Mobile payments, though available, haven’t really taken off here like in Europe.

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        I used bank deposits. First through the mail, then through electronic-but-not-Internet payment systems and finally online and mobile banking. Also bank authorizations.

        Checks were never big here, but they had been phased out completely in the 00s. I haven’t actually seen one since the nineties. I have never owned a check book.

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          Man, I would never pay rent or a mortgage payment with a deposit. I did that once, and they claimed I didn’t pay several times, and I had no receipt. I had to pay my bank $20 to provide proof of deposit (several times) Fuck that. Also fuck US Bank.

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          This is funny, my son works at a printing place that prints, among other things, checks. And they apparently make a LOT of checks. He’s 25 and was confused why so many people need checks.

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            The fewer places print checks, the more each one is busy. Also probably still very common for businesses.

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              This. I can tell you from a banking standpoint we were ordering FAR fewer registers and other check stuff over the years and before I left they had reduced the amount we even could order to like 10 books per order, so not at lot and old ladies would come take them all.

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              Yes, my wife and my employers both pay using checks as well as printed invoices after direct deposits.

              My entire family uses checks to pay each other. I’m not going to Venmo my dad $15,000. And his back doesn’t let me transfer funds to him for since idiotic reason.

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          What’s paying by “bank deposit”? In the US that term simply means putting money in your bank.

          Like how did you pay the water bill that way?

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        I don’t know about that guy buy you can’t even get cheque books in NZ anymore. They were phased out, mostly because electronic payments are ubiquitous and most places already stopped accepting cheques a decade or two back.

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        He must have been homeless his entire adult life.

        I’m mid 40s and didn’t get a credit card until I was 25. And I couldn’t even pay for any utilities, rent or car payments with it. And still can’t. Online bill pay wasn’t a thing until like after the recession.

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          It’s mainly in the USA it seems. In South Africa, we have had internet banking since 1995. So businesses stopped using checks around that time. Phone banking with DTMF was popular around that time as well. Bank transfers we used more than checks for businesses before then.

          For individuals, debit cards became the default around the same time. Same functionality as a credit card, without the credit.

          Then Internet banking became mainstream for individuals around the 2000s when everyone got access to the internet on their phones.

          Cash remained popular throughout since ATM infrastructure was very good in South Africa.

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    What does it even mean “one less account to track?” The money is still coming from a bank account, if you track the money in your account you would still have to account for a check, and it would be even worse if the check isn’t cashed right away.

    Is it that you don’t have the monthly credit card bill if you send a check? But you’re spending the same amount of money regardless, checks are more like one-off credit card transactions, that don’t confirm payment like a credit card does. Checks are worse for the payment-neurotic. That’s maybe an argument for debit cards, it’s not an argument for checks.

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    a check? ok bye, ive never understood what the fuck that shit should do… like what about cash or just a simple transfer? why do people use checks?

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      I’ve never used a check in my life. I can’t imagine who would accept one in my country.

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    I keep all my bills organized in bookmarks. Keep track of their due dates on an Google Sheets budget. I’m not going back to checks…lol

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      Do you guys not have direct debit? All my bills are paid automatically. Manually paying my bills sounds like a pain and I would definitely forget/double pay if I needed to do it that way

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        We do. I never give companies power to pull money from my account. I realize it’s a convenience for some people in the way they budget, so no judging… I’ve just been screwed by it one too many times. I keep full control over my finances. I budget everything out on an Excel template I created. It actually doesn’t take much time at all …an hour or so once a week to get everything balanced and paid for the month.

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    I mean… The account exists if you log into it or not. You still need to keep track of it so that you’re paying into the correct account, and so that you know how much to pay.

    Only you now have to talk to a person if you need to check or change anything.

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      Not the account for the random hotel or restaurant. “Pay with the O’Burger app!” “Collect 425 SkyPoints with a Platinum Membership!”

      You don’t need an online account to buy food at a grocery, but if you had one I guarantee they’d spam the heck out of you, alongside whatever else they might do with your data.

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          I mean, paying for Netflix with cash would definitely be a power move.

          Utilities don’t have special offers that I know of. Check or online is very country dependent though.

          I’m having a little trouble thinking of a service that would have automatic reminders but not require an account to access the service… Hotel? Something with layaway? Maybe car payments. Tuition too. Those don’t exactly seem like spurious account services though… Maybe the reminders are for pickup?

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            My VPN sometimes sends me reminders and special offers when my contact is almost up, for example. Mobile phone data usage reminders and warnings. Even just reminders that they’re going to be charging your card on payment day.

            But mainly I don’t wanna leave home so paperless has already won for me lol