• Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    The civil war was started over the economics of slavery, not the cancellation of slavery. The south wanted slaves to count towards votes, but not count towards taxes owed. The north refused to allow that, and they decided that slaves didn’t count towards either. And since without slaves the southern states had much lower populations, that dramatically diminished their voting power. That is why the civil war started.

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      3 months ago

      oh it was aaaaall about that! well thanks for explaining that so well…
      it’s weird all of the historical documents showing quite a few people were arguing about the morality of slavery… that members of congress came to blows over it and nobody mentioned the secret double secret reason of: it was aaaaall about votes because scubus saw a youtube video about it once…

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      3 months ago

      This is revisionist, false, and stinks of the DotC.

      The war was about the South keeping it’s slaves, and it’s ability to continue to subjugate an entire race of people. The Declaration of Causes of Seceding States states that “our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery.” That only the “black race” is capable of being slaves. And in case you think this could be twisted somehow to support a rally against taxes, it goes on to say “There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union”

      This is the opening volley off secession. It talks about commerce but not about taxes. It doesn’t mention counting slaves as votes because they’d won that fight 60 years previously.

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        3 months ago

        What’s the doct? And yeah, the south feared the dissolution of slavery but from my understanding that was not what it was about for the north. Hence the 3/5ths compromise.

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          3 months ago

          Daughters of the Confederacy

          You realize that the 3/5ths compromise was added in 1787 at the constitutional convention right? That wasn’t even remotely at issue during the civil war.

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            3 months ago

            So it would seem. A bunch of the sources I was just googling seemed to confirm what I had learned in school, hence this debate. We were never taught about the dotc though, I take it they were a post war group of propagandists?