• gregorum@lemm.ee
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    It actually isn’t, no. Nobody is paying them to do that

    That is the worst and most entitled excuse for the abandonment for any and all personal responsibility since I heard my 3-year-old niece try to convince my brother she should never have to wipe her own butt because he will always be there to do it for her.

    Wow. Shame on you.

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      Clearly, you didn’t understand what I was trying to explain any better than your niece would have.

      If anyone’s abandoning personal responsibility, it’s the awful candidates who don’t do their job and then blame people who suffer for it much more than the candidates ever will.

      I’m not saying that it’s a good or even neutral thing to not vote for the lesser evil when only evils are available. Of course that’s had.

      I’m saying that it’s the responsibility of the candidates to not be evil and to convince enough voters of it that the greater evil doesn’t win.

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        Clearly, you didn’t understand what I was trying to explain any better than your niece would have.

        I understand that you’re trying to blame others for something that’s your own responsibility: educating yourself, and the consequences of your own actions, such as your vote

        And while you whine about candidates “not being evil” and refuse to vote for Biden, you help the far more “evil” Trump win.

        But I’m sure, just like my 3 year-old niece, you’ll find someone else to blame for the consequences of your actions.

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          I understand that you’re trying to blame others for something that’s your own responsibility: educating yourself

          Clearly you don’t understand since that’s im no way what I’m doing. I DO educate myself about the candidates, their policy positions and their trustworthiness at every election. I’m saying that not everyone CAN s that since they already have more to do than can be reasonably expected of them.

          and the consequences of your own actions, such as your vote

          Again, not myself I’m talking about. I’m gonna be at my local polling place come election day no matter how much I have to hold my nose and suppress my gag reflex

          I have it easier than just tens of millions of working poor: I don’t have to work long hours on election day. I don’t have children I’d need to get someone to look after and my local polling place isn’t understaffed and the only one available to hundreds of thousands if not millions of people.

          Voting isn’t easy for everyone as it is for me and evidently also you.

          And while you whine about candidates “not being evil” and refuse to vote for Biden

          Again not once since I turned 18 23 years ago have I missed a chance to cast my vote

          you help the far more “evil” Trump win.

          Nope, that’s you lot with your insistence that everyone shut up and obey your crappy candidates and never demand good choices.

          A good candidate would beat the orange man-child in a landslide ten times out that ten. Only awful candidates lose to him or barely scrape a win.

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            Clearly you don’t understand since that’s im no way what I’m doing

            It’s the first thing you said in your first reply to me. lol

            Again, not myself I’m talking about.

            When it’s your vote, of course it is. you’re just trying to deflect responsibility for that (and educating yourself) onto others. It was the very first thing you said to me.

            Voting isn’t easy for everyone as it is for me and evidently also you.

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            Nope, that’s you lot with your insistence that everyone shut up and obey your crappy candidates and never demand good choices.

            Making up stories again as an excuse to blame others for the consequences of your actions.

            And you’re hallucinating again if you heard anyone say that you can’t demand good choices. But you’re also delusional if you believe that helping Trump win by not voting for Biden will accomplish anything but the opposite.

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              It’s the first thing you said in your first reply to me.

              Said it in third person about other people. Learn how grammar works.

              When it’s your vote, of course it is. you’re just trying to deflect responsibility for that (and educating yourself) onto others

              Again, it isn’t. As I told you at length, I’ve never not voted and have always researched candidates before doing so.

              What I’m trying to get through your thick skull is that other people don’t have the time, energy and easy opportunity to do that, which makes it important for candidates to be honest and good enough to be worth going through all that trouble while already running on fumes.

              Both Biden and Hillary have failed that part of THEIR job abysmally.

              It was the very first thing you said to me.

              Again, learn fucking grammar 🤦

              Making up stories again as an excuse to blame others for the consequences of your actions.

              Of the dozens of times you were dropped on your head as a child, how many would you say were intentional?

              And you’re hallucinating again if you heard anyone say that you can’t demand good choices

              You didn’t literally say so, but you’re implying as much by telling everyone to shut up and fall behind awful choices such as Biden.

              But you’re also delusional if you believe that helping Trump win by not voting for Biden will accomplish anything but the opposite.

              Again, never said anything of the sort. You shitlibs REALLY love using that strawman every time anyone points out how Biden is throwing the election and thus American democracy.

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                2 months ago

                Just saying “nuh-uh!” Over and over doesn’t change the facts, lol

                Get a better answer argument (and better personal responsibility) than a selfish 3 year old.

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                  Just saying “nuh-uh!” Over and over doesn’t change the facts

                  Neither does putting words in my mouth with endless strawmen and pretending to not understand simple English.

                  Get a better answer argument (and better personal responsibility) that a selfish year old.

                  Right back at you, chief.

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                    You’re the only one who puts the words in anyone’s mouth, and repeatedly lied and hallucinated to make your absurd and fallacious argument. The comments here bear that out. Once again, blaming others for the consequences of your own actions.