Haven’t read the comics, but everyone says that The Boys tv show is way better
Seasons 1 and 2, I’d agree. Season 3 was just bad.
That’s a bit harsh. The first ¾ of season 3 are really good, even if they did drop the ball at the end.
Johnny Cash’s version of Hurt
Trent Reznor even said it’s no longer his (Trent’s) song
I’ve heard both versions probably a hundred times each and only hear Johnny Cash’s voice anymore.
I don’t know what Reznor and Cash’s relationship was, but that has to feel so surreal for Reznor. You never see older artists cover newer ones in general, let alone such a legendary country artist cover a young alternative rock artist. If I were Reznor, that would be the thing that lets me die happy.
Yeah he really brings feeling to this song
I had never heard Trent Reznor’s original or Johnny Cash’s cover so thank you for mentioning it. What an incredible music video!
Starship Troopers - the book was extremely meh - the movie is excellent (and very relevant to modern day).
Clue - an excellent movie based off a fucking boardgame… ditto for Barbie now as well!
Mage the Acension is a TTRPG love letter to Ars Magicka and it blows it out of the water.
Helldivers 2 is heavily inspired by the movie… And I would say it’s better than it.
PS: Mage - The Ascension ♥️
While I like the theme etc. of Helldivers 2, I do wish they went a bit further than that. This kind of satire is best when it forces small bits of unease on the audience, like the ending of Starship Troopers - “it feels fear!”, and everyone celebrates. There are bits and pieces surrounding the gameplay loop (e.g. something like “never talk to the enemy, destroy them for democracy”, forgot the exact line), but it’s rare enough to be easy to ignore.
Paul Verhoeven really upped the ante on that one.
How would Hannah Arendt be relevant here? I read a short blurb about her philosophy especially in regards to authority but I haven’t seen starship troopers
A hexbear or lemmygrad user could better explain this one, but its a deep-cut satirical comment on how nations that market themselves as “free” (but aren’t), promote philosophies that group and demonize all their enemies into a single camp, and prop up writers like Arendt, who was one of the main ideological peddlers of western moral supremacy during the cold war.
Losurdo has a lot of good articles on this and Arendt specificaly, and also Gabriel Rockhill has some good articles about this too.
Ahhh, thank you. I’ll give that link a read
No probs! I also recorded that one recently as an audiobook here. torrent link is also there.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Im subbed to your youtube lol, thanks for the think though
I recently started reading Eichmann In Jerusalem, because I was aware it introduced the phrase “banality of evil” and always think of that in moral/ethical discussions about the real world (versus hypotheticals), and was immediately struck by how uncritical she was of zionism when it crops up in her reporting/writing. It’s almost like just a quirk of some of the heads of state that is used to explain their politics, rather than anything with more sinister implications.
Perhaps this comes from some immature SJW-ish ideal that an author should always negatively represent harmful ideas—or maybe she does later and I’m just impatient—but it still strikes me as ironic that in the seminal work on The Banality of Evil, genocidal colonialism is treated as, well, banal.
Deep Space 9 is light years better than TNG.
TNG > TOS too. But yeah all three are great and not telling the same story or anything.
Holy crap man. You think Trump supporters are crazy. I’m glad I’m not you right now.
A Very Brady Sequel.
The Muppet Christmas Carol
Only version to actually feature a Dickens character that acts as a narrator. It just works better even if the narrator is Gonzo
I wasn’t sure what the right answer to this question would be until I saw it.
Shattered Pixel Dungeon
Controversial, but Lord of the Rings. Tolkien wrote great stories, but his writing style always seemed kind of lackluster.
I can’t fault him for any of his depth and character building and poetry and storytelling and descriptive environments it was all very thorough and for the right person wonderful. I think the movies did a giant justice to making his work accessible. There are a lot of people out there that can’t manage to make their way through his poetry sections. And you can’t not read the poetry sections because there’s definitely content in there you need.
This was mine, but I’m assuming you weren’t referring to the BBC radio play, which is the best version of LotR ever made. The films had major distortions on the themes of the story and completely unbelievable characterization that destroyed all suspension of disbelief.
Sure, the CG was nice eye candy… but Gandalf getting into a shouting match with Elrond? Really? We’re okay with that?
Plus, skipping the correct ending of Frodo and Sam coming back to the Shire in industrialized dystopia missed key parts of their character growth and Tolkien’s anti-industrial themes.
And the massive over-focus on a love story that was barely relevant in the story? And a half hour epilogue of useless wide shots showing how amazing the wedding was and how everyone is doing so great now that they won? What a waste of time. They skipped one of the best parts of the book for that shit.
I could go on if I had watched the films more than twice and could recall all the other huge problems.
The books don’t hold up, either. Ain’t nobody got time to read 3-page info dumps of dense descriptive writing about plot-irrelevant details, or dense blocks of ancient history that demolishes any semblance of pacing left over.
He founded a lot of tropes of fantasy, so I know why he included all those descriptive details, but it just doesn’t hold up. Elf, big tree house, got it. You’ve got me for two paragraphs to fill in the descriptive details, but then let’s move on with the plot, tyvm.
If you’re a fan of LotR, give the 13-hour BBC radio play a listen. And of you’ve watched/listened to/read all three and disagree with me, I’d love to hear why (out of interest). Full disclosure: you probably won’t convince me, but I’m still waiting to hear someone who knows the source material justifying why the movies are so adored.
I encourage you not to view him as an author but as an imaginative creator confined by language.
Also a racist
I came to this thread expecting to see this, and even with that expectation it makes me sad to see; to me the books are unarguably superior, to a large degree because Tolkien is such an excellent writer. I’d encourage anyone who’s bounced off the books a time or two to go back to them and try reading them aloud, even quietly to yourself: even though it’s prose, the text has meter and flow almost as strong as poetry. It’s undeniably a slow read, but it’s just such a beautiful one that the films, fun as they are, don’t hold up.
Plus, Jackson’s Two Towers is garbage.
It being better when read aloud actually nails what I dislike about it and, far more so, The Hobbit. They read like they were written to be told as tales around a fire, not to be read. So they don’t work particularly well as books that you read quietly to yourself (imo, obviously).
I haven’t read it, but I’ve heard the Forrest Gump movie is much better than the novel.
Yeah but the 2nd book is batshit crazy and worth a read
Pretty much everyone who’s discussed it agrees The Godfather (film) blows the Puzo novel it adapted away.
Runner up is Adaptation, an adaptation of the novel The Orchid Thief that expands its scope significantly.
Adaptation was one of those movies I watched and then caught myself thinking about it through the year…a very well done movie.
The Godfather book has a lot of great character nuances but it also has a subplot of Sonny’s enormous dong being the only thing that could satisfy his wife’s bridesmaid’s enormous vagina.
The movies made me want to read the book. I still haven’t yet though.
I still get chills when I hear “you’re nothing to me now, Fredo.”
The Mist
That ending was one of the most brilliant gut-punches in film history. Stephen King himself said he wished he had written it.
Came here looking for this.
Attack on Titan anime better than the manga. I love them both, but the musical cues, the animation, the voice acting all take the anime way over.
I’m curious - on voice acting do you mean the English or Japanese version?
English
The Magicians: The books were good, but the TV show really was in a class all its own. And it did away with using obscure words just because, that was annoying.
Game of Thrones: At this rate, ASOIAF is never getting done, so I’m by default giving it to the show for actually finishing the job.
Good Omens: The first season brought the book to life, but there wasn’t source material beyond that. The second season did a great job fleshing out the characters and moving the story forward into the final season.
the Game of Thrones show’s last 2 seasons (the ones not based on any published books) was so bad, it make people retroactively hate the entire series and the entire intellectual property lol
I suppose one could say Game of Thrones has surpassed the source material in quality so much that it managed to do it twice in both directions.
Honestly, that’s on Martin. He signed the deal, then failed to get off his arse and finish the damn series. HBO exercised their right to develop their own content when, after five years, he’d still not made any progress on finishing the series.
The fans needed something. Can you imagine the uproar if HBO told us all to wait another few years before closing out the story?
Martin can whinge all he likes about his creative process, and how he was shut out of the final seasons. I notice he hasn’t whinged once about the money he made from selling the TV rights.
Don’t get me wrong - he’s absolutely entitled to that money. It’s his creation after all. But he also signed the contract that got us to where we got to.
It makes me very glad that Wheel of Time finished before being adapted. That one has the potential to be better than the books, but they need to give it more episodes per season IMHO. WoT has some unnecessarily tedious bits that will likely be stripped out, which should improve things.
I’d rather the five released ASOIAF stay as they are, perpetually unfinished than anything close to the hatchet job that was the GoT show ever be released in book. For me, sometimes just finishing isn’t enough. The books > than the show 10,000 times.
Okay, fair. I’m mostly just frustrated that GRRM is taking so damn long.
I totally agree. The dude is aging, and not the greatest candidate for advanced years, we’ll say. He’s worth 9 figures. Please just hire someone to ghost write it and supervise their direction closely. He would more than recoup the financial hit in sales, so it could be argued it wouldn’t even cost him anything.
He could even justify it to the fans as a collab with a well-known author, who would do the bulk of writing with Martin as a supervisor/big picture guy. Like if Jordan had spoken with Sanderson to finish WoT before he died.
Jaws the movie is much better than the book. None of the characters in the book are remotely likeable.
Foundation. The books are okay. But the show has better character, escpecially the empire side. Great visual, and more griping plot
Love the series but they are hard to compare with each other because the series have almost nothing to do with the books.
The Empire Story Arc is great, the visual are awesome. Everything else is much worse, and the whole plot with hologram Seldon makes it a clown and loses its mysticism. Let’s see if The Mule arc is good enough to compensate now awful the Salvor Hardin is.
