FUTO just launched their privacy focused keyboard app. I know there have been quite a few posts about keyboard recommendations, so this might be worth checking out if you’re not happy with your current one.
Every day I get more frustrated with swiftkey. This sounds worth a try.
Aaaaaand not available for iOS. Womp womp.
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Hard to believe anyone makes apps for iOS, considering the hoops you have to jump through just to make it available to download.
This is something I’ve heard, and assume is the case, but I don’t know the specifics of. What kind of hoops are there?
Please correct me if am wrong since I have never made any mobile OS applications.
There’s the $100 fee or whatever to join the developer program even if your app is free. There is a slow manual review process. You have to share a 30% cut with Apple of any profit. Most of the tooling for iOS requires a macOS machine which is another massive money sink as well as being proprietary with no source available. I believe GPL or similarly licensed code isn’t allowed on the App Store either due to ToS conflicts.
Most privacy-friendly things take an source available, open source, free software, or other (post-open, copyfarleft) approach that conflicts with Apple’s model for software, but also developers are likely to be on Linux or BSD + a Linux or Android phone where everything will be more arduous to build & test while not even being a device they or their friends would use so why both building if likely you aren’t even getting paid for it.
Privacy and Apple are two opposites
no fdroid?
Add the FUTO repo and you can download it on fdroid
Just use heliboard (openboard’s fork to accept multiple languages spelling-correction), you dont have to search further
Id use it but the hindi keyboard sucks and I dont know how to fix it (inscript with “capitalized” underlay)
Finally an option that is not just a dumb keyboard, this one has some local llms and local speech to text, so that’s pretty cool. Currently there’s no multilingual mode and I can’t find a way to adjust the height, but once these features are there I’ll happily switch.
How was the speech to text? This is the one feature I’m missing with the various keyboards I’ve tried
It’s great, I’m not sure if it can be tweeked like the FUTO speech to text app but it’s fast. I have had it miss a couple of words but that may have just been coincidence.
Well you can use sayboard for that.
Thank you, I’ll check that it out as well!
Its great, same as their standalone Speech-To-Text Application.
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Oh, interesting, thanks!
2fer on this one - got a fun new keyboard and discovered Obtainium, which I’m quite excited about!
WARNING Anti-libre software, FUTO Keyboard and Google Play, bans us from removing malicious source code.
Thank you for the recommendation. I’ve been dying to get rid of Swiftkey. 🙏🏾 So far, it seems to work well.
Why is it 103 mb?
It’s the voice recognition model probably. Plus there are machine learning models in it as well to predict text.
I use heliboard and futo for speech to text. I was using sayboard for stt, and it worked OK, but futo just seems so much better at it. So far in liking it, I didn’t know they released a keyboard as well, I won’t be giving it a try but I hope it works out, I’d prefer FOSS.
Looks nice! Hope they add Korean and Chinese characters as that doesn’t seem to be working for now.
Giving it a try. But so far it seems like it would be nice if you can specify a different sever to run the whisper api calls on. I set up kõnele to use my server for voice to text, but it would be nice to remove an app.
FYI: this is another FUTO app that uses their proprietary “FTL” license, so it’s not open source.
Huh, thanks for the heads up. Section 4 makes it look like they can close-source whenever they want.
I’m just glad FUTO is still letting Immich use the AGPL instead of this, though.
It is open source. But they supposedly keep some rights (they say for some time) so people dont produce fake versions of their software like has happened with newpipe (newpipe versions on google play store bundled with malware). I dont like a license like this but I think I want to trust Louis Rossman. He looks like someone who is truly commited tto his mission.
You sure? Section 2.1 miss an important keyword: modify. If I can’t modify and distribute my modified version, it can hardly call OSS.
The well known term for this is “source available”.
This license while not the most permitting does not appear to hide the code behind any proprietary shielding though.
Source available ≠ open-source
Ah. Of course. Something being open source doesn’t make it open source. It all makes sense now thank you for clarifying.
That also wasn’t technically a response to my comment, it was an ideological defense mechanism to avoid addressing the content of the license.
May you explain how it is OSS when the license Section 2.1 doesn’t grant me the right to modify the code?
You still shouldn’t dismiss these sorts of licenses as “free software” has done an alright job for user freedoms but not getting developers compensated for their efforts—which is why licenses like these pop up sharing the source code, but not letting their work be exploited.
Calling source available an open source is like calling shareware an open culture.
Yeah yeah, it’s open for everyone… For not for list of small but still exceptions…
Ah. Of course. Something being open source doesn’t make it open source. It all makes sense now thank you for clarifying.
If the license doesn’t meet the OSD, then it isn’t open-source, but just source-available. You are welcome.
That also wasn’t technically a response to my comment, it was an ideological defense mechanism to avoid addressing the content of the license.
It was. I pointed out, that FTL is a proprietary license. Because: «Open source doesn’t just mean access to the source code» © OSI
Yeah I don’t agree with the osd being the only approach to being open source. Turns out people have differing opinions on that. You’re welcome.
It wasn’t a response to my comment because you didn’t respond to my comment. You said is proprietary. I point out that it’s not a terrible license. Then you resort to a sound bite non response.
You could have pointed out for example that ftl 3.2 and 4.1 are pretty shitty limitations to impose.
Yeah I don’t agree with the osd being the only approach to being open source.
Well, it isn’t the only one. FSF also has requirements for free-software licenses and FTL doesn’t meet them.
It wasn’t a response to my comment because you didn’t respond to my comment. You said is proprietary. I point out that it’s not a terrible license.
I was answering that statement: «does not appear to hide the code behind any proprietary shielding», 'cause it does.
129 MB for a keyboard? Why?
I’m guessing the local llms
Awesome. Every so often I try a few different keyboards but always go right back to SwiftKey because the predictions are so good. I’ll give this one a shot
Why not use AnySoftKeyboard?
For example, because its autocorrect in a multi-language setting is pretty bad (autocorrecting wrong language even if its manually switched).