• MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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    I don’t like the art, it’s poorly written. Harry watches the government get taken over by fascists and then decides to go be a cop. Plus it excuses slavery

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      1 month ago

      Not every police force is the ultra-militarised right wing type you see in North America either.

      Poorly written, sure, I’d say a lot of it is too, but so are lots of things.

      Regardless, it doesn’t change the point, you can think JKR is a transphobic twat and still like a book. Rudyard Kipling has some great poems and books, despite being racist. Roald Dahl wrote brilliant childrens books despite being a raving antisemite. The Smiths made great music despite Morrissey being a cunt. Etc.

      If you want to discard their work on account of the artist’s personalities, then fair enough, more power to you. I’m just saying it’s fine to like the art but not the artist too.

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        I thought you said to like the art and not the artist. Hermione becoming minister for magic isn’t canon, it’s WoG via the cursed child. It’s not the art. You’re saying to separate it from the artist, but you’re basing your evaluation on decisions made by the artist years later. Hypocrite.

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          Where have I said I like JKR? Where’s the hypocrisy?

          You were the one who brought up events after the books, now I’m not to talk about it otherwise it’s somehow an endorsement of transphobia or something? Lmao

          And of course it’s still art - it’s part of the world that the author created. I don’t see how you could possibly argue that it isn’t. It’s HP universe stuff.

          Do the events of The Silmarillion not count as art, because it came out years after the LOTR trilogy?

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            Harry decides to become a cop during the original books. And if you’re going to make decisions about the quality of the books based on fanfic, then so will I. I’ll asset that Harry Potter sucks because Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way is a mary sue and the prose in My Immortal is terrible.

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              1 month ago

              Auror, not cop.

              And again, stop asserting that other police forces are like that of the US. Other countries exist and have different cultures, curb your nationalism just a little bit.

              I never mentioned fanfic, this is again you going off on a wild tangent.

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                I’m not an American, you’re the one who keeps talking about the US, Cursed Child is fanfiction, and aurors enforced fascist laws during Voldemort’s coup, which Harry knows from direct lived experience.

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                  You keep bringing up US political dynamics.

                  Stuff from the author is not fanfiction. I think you need to brush up on what fanfiction means. You’d think the meaning would be obvious since the word quite literally describes itself.

                  And yes, a fascist government imposed fascism in the HP universe… Then a non-fascist government succeeded it… honestly, how is this hard to grasp?