Adobe pulls that shit too.
And it’s really easy to not really think about what you’re doing and accidentally save to the cloud.
Then later wonder what the fuck happened to the file you spent three hours on when you came back from lunch.
Fucking Adobe.
Adobe also recently snuck into their ToS that they could use whatever you made with their products for training AI and then gaslit everyone saying “we never said that” and changed their ToS. You know where you can’t access my stuff? In a cloud.
You mean can access?
OneDrive=Ransomware
Oh you want to delete a file from your folder? Ok, we’ll also delete it from OneDrive so it’s gone forever, see ya!
Firstly, no, it’s not gone forever. It remains in your onedrive recycling bin for a month. Secondly, that behavior makes sense. One drive is a mirror of your synced folders. If you just want to not have the file downloaded in your computer, just right click on the file and select “free up space”.
It’s so obvious!
It is. Another indicator you get is a status icon next to each file telling you if the file is permanently or temporarily (meaning it will get auto-deleted locally if you don’t use it) dowloaded to your pc or if it’s only on the cloud.
Oh, and you also get a prompt when you delete a file letting you know that it will be deleted from onedrive as well but it will still be in the recycling bin for a while. The only way to not get that prompt is to tick a box to not get reminded again.
Microsoft software has a lot of flaws but this isn’t one of them.
I grew up in suburban DFW, and King of the Hill is not really an accurate parody…
It’s a documentary.
You think I’m kidding, I am not.
When does this scenario ever come up? I’ve never had the file save dialog try to default to OneDrive.
What version of Windows are you using, and is it possible you forgot about configuring OneDrive away? This is the default in most versions of 10 and 11.
11, and what do you mean by “configuring OneDrive away”?
I meant what edition, and I mean what I said. Group policy, registry keys, or scripts/programs that remove it ala shut up 10.
Save As dialog of Windows or the one built into MS Word, for example? Why they even did that, I don’t know
Again, I’ve never seen this before in my Save As dialog in neither Windows 10 or 11.
No, this is behavior in MS Office products, not Windows.
Luckily I’m old so I reflexively click the save button every few minutes anyway. Great progress there, Microsoft!
Yeah what is up with that? It’s nice to know where things are but whatever happened to /usr/local
I feel this.
I once helped a person with their computer. They complained the they cant save the their photos. Well, their onedrive was filled to brim with crap, while the local 1Tb disk was empty because they had zero idea how storage and folders work. I had to explain her there is literally 1000x more fast disk space available, so please dont save into onedrive.
I dont blame her tbh. I have onedrive completely disabled on my personal pc, but on my work laptop Windows defaults everything to onedrive and names the onedrive folders identically to your local ones.
Naming different things identically is a thing Microsoft loves to do. I still keep opening Teams instead of Teams or Teams. And I think there are at least three things on my PC called Copilot, and they haven’t even released Copilot yet.
It’s not really her fault. Microsoft pushes people to use their onedrive and pay for a subscription even when people have no clue what it is or what it does. Microsoft is just insanely anti-consumer.
This and many others are reasons a switch to Linux has been so joyful. No more Windows trying to guilt me, nag me, push me, trick me, abuse me to use shit the way they want. It’s so much more…quiet.
For me, it just works, it does what I want it to, and it’s not selling my info. A year and half now after leaving windows and I love it. Peaceful
With Linux I have ownership over my computer and control of the software. I couldn’t use anything else.
That’s great unless that person’s files get corrupted/deleted or hard drive fails. Then having backups in the cloud or at least ona a device on a local network is a good idea.
In that case it would still be better to save locally and make regular encrypted backups to the clouds than to save everything to the cloud
Hank Hill made me like Ronald Reagan
Neat, just what I would expect from user @cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee
What’s wrong with my username?
I want to save to onedrive. So I can create it from my desktop, modify it from my laptop next week when I’m out of town, and send a link to it to the printer shop that’s gonna print me some copies. Why are you like this?
We used to do this with thumb drives. You can get a 128G usb3 thumb drive these days for like 20 bucks in the checkout line of most electronics stores. Cool things about a thumb* drive is I don’t need to pay a subscription fee for it, it doesn’t need an Internet connection, and it isn’t liable to be rifled through by Microsoft unless Bill Gates comes to your house and steals it from you.
Hey, no one is trying to stop you from doing that. I’m sure it is very convenient for you.
My point of view though is that automatically uploading my personal files to some corporation computer on the other side of the world should not be the default when I try to save something. Maybe sometimes I’ll want to use that feature, but there are a variety of reasons why I don’t want it most of the time. And I definitely don’t like having to jump through hoops just to avoid it.
And I also don’t want programs to throw all their crap in the documents folder. AppData is made for that.
~/.config :>
And now show hiddrn files and you see the plethora of applications that dump everything in your homedir instead of .config
Its even worse when they dont make it a hidden folder (looking at you android studio)
That annoys the fuck out of me. I want the folders I put in /home, not your shit. Put it in /.local or something and fuck off.
yup…
.hidden file became my best friend - and a little context menu script for dolphin to easily add a file / folder to that .hidden is a thing i use way too often tbh
Hint for KDE folks: Ctrl + h toggles hidden visibility. Makes navigating lots easier. :D
Same in thunar (the xfce file manager)
Awesome! Thunar is legit. 😁
SO MUCH. Now my standard procedure is to just make a “_My_Documents” folder within Documents, so I can know where the files are that I put there myself.
(Leading underscore pops it to the top of the list alphabetically)
I remember some Windows versions had a Games folder for all that, saved games, etc…but it seems very few games actually decided to use it lol.
If you save it on your computer instead of on their servers, how could they possibly be expected to analyze your data? Come on now, be reasonable!
Yeah some people are too inconsiderate of shareholders.
That’s why they created recent controversy with ai analysing your whole data, another reason to switch to Linux
Tbf that analyzing was happening on-device… But yeah
But analyzed data still get sent to them, so yeah
Maybe I’m out of the loop, but afaik they always said that none of the data would ever leave the device.
Check privacy settings, they sent usage data before, what stopping them now
There’s a massive difference between what “usage data” refers to in this context and the kind of data stored and analyzed by Recall locally.
That’s the part that makes everybody nervous though. Everything from the global dragnet surveillance network to the marketing company behind your grocery store app is most interested in “metadata.”
Companies like Microsoft will loudly say they don’t want your cat pictures and memes and college papers, they’re not tying your usage to an explicit file with your name and favorite pasta varieties…
…BUT that forced transmission of “anonymous user data”, could potentially be super effective in identifying and manipulating you. With enough of it, you can easily put together a profile of an individual.
Heck, for a while, TOR would advise against resizing your brower window because the window size in pixels could potentially help fingerprint you on the web. How nuts is that?!
Most people actually worried about a spook digging through
"\videos\Homework\"are indeed paranoid.But there’s been a lot of research at what can be done even if you’re just “userID 1284hdkfuw724bfiueb”
Sure but it still requires trusting them when they pinky promise they won’t send any recall data. Fuck them tbh. It just makes me feel even more right about my decision to switch to Linux years ago.
God now its not only word “windows” summoning the linux bros but the words “AI” as well?
I think it’s pretty fair considering the implications of Recall
how would they even monetize that? so basic
exactly! do people expect windows to scan every local file too??!
Pretty sure it does that already, at least with defender
Also, the explorer indexer at the very least takes note of what files it has stored.
Insert “use Linux” joke. But I’m absolutely serious when I say that using my company’s M365 stuff using the web versions in Firefox on Linux is pretty pleasant.
Any experience on OneDrive Client for Linux by any chance?
Nope, I’m not sure I even looked for one yet. I don’t need auto sync and/or backup for my work since that’s mostly in GitHub and JIRA and the like. But it’s still convenient to be able to throw a file in there at times.
When i still needed to use OneDrive I used rclone, works great and also supports most other cloud providers as well as sftp
thats pretty cursed
Hmm, in my experience Microsoft 365 on Firefox (Linux) works horrendously.
I’m a Firefox user, but when I need to work on OneDrive or Outlook Web I open Chrome because it works way better. And that’s a shame.
Use a user agent switcher. Usually fixes the problems.
Use Cryptomator. You can then use any cloud storage provider knowing they can’t read your files.
Or just don’t use cloud storage bruh
Not always an option.
We use windows at work, which is annoying as a software developer, and I WFH three days a week. I need some files available on both machines and cloud is the best option. I’m not about to be taking a flash drive between home and work.
Don’t you use git?
I use syncthing, which works great unless you need a ton of space.
We have a list of approved software we can install and that isn’t one of them.
Syncthing is a piece of crap.
Why not? It’s another useful area to use as a backup.
it’s good for 3-2-1 backup rule though. but you can also ask a relative or a friend to let you plug a NAS to their router.
or just pgp encrypt them
What tool would you recommend for that?
kleopatra is good, just make sure to backup your private key. If you are comfortable with a cli you could use gnupg. Its man page is good.
If you are comfortable with a cli you could use gnupg. Its man page is good.
If I have cloud storage mounted somewhere I need to be able to drag and drop directories in and out, see the files inside in an unencrypted form, and they should transparently be uploaded encrypted. This could very well be achieved by a bunch of scripts involving gnupg, but then that’s what’s I’m looking for, because gnupg by itself wouldn’t be productive to use unless as a one-off.
This seems promising: https://szymonkrajewski.pl/encrypted-cloud-drive-rclone/
