• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Even when qualified immunity is removed, individual cops are indemnified because they are in the act of performing their duties

    That’s the definition of qualified immunity. It’s not a law, but an understanding in the courts that cops are special. Ending qualified immunity means passing a law that states cops aren’t special and should be held to the same standards as regular citizens, with grants to do specific things to act in their official capacity (e.g. detain and arrest).

    Ending qualified immunity is essential to getting rid of bad cops. And bad cops are who cause issues like George Floyd’s death.

    That’s a specific tactic but the broken windows strategy would remain in place.

    We should absolutely be fixing broken windows as we come across them.

    Just like the civil rights movement didn’t end racism, but instead gave minorities a lot of tools to fix the broken windows they came across, to the point where things are a lot better for POC today than before the CRA.

    Ending qualified immunity and legalizing recreational drugs are approachable goals that appeal to a broad audience and will do a lot of good for POC specifically (and everyone generally).

    He has no grassroots movent

    But he does. He got a lot of people out voting who wouldn’t have otherwise. They didn’t have a clear, actionable goal, but they did have a clear message: “drain the swamp.”

    The lack of meaningful change was because Trump (their spokesperson) doesn’t care about change, he just cares about being in the spotlight. We can learn a lot from his messaging and turn that into meaningful change.

    Every modern movement learns the lessons of socialist organizing or perishes

    That’s just not true. Look at the American Revolution, which was pretty much the exact opposite: classical liberals (individualists) fighting against authoritarianism. That worked because people had a common enemy, so they organized for the purpose of defeating that enemy.

    What you need to be successful is an “us vs them” mentality. That can come from a socialist background, but it doesn’t have to.

    Yes, and this is triangulation that he later regretted

    Yes, but we don’t know if he would’ve been as successful without doing it. Given the political and social climate at the time, I think King made the right call (for the movement, not for his personal convictions).

    You cannot build a pro-Palestine movement while vilifying Palestinians

    Sure, broadly speaking, but you can kick out specific individuals that will distract from the message. That’s what King did, and I think his movement was successful for it. That’s called compromise, and it works if you’re careful to not compromise on your core message.

    Please review his later work when he was murdered.

    I’m not talking about his later work, I’m talking about the Civil Rights movement.

    You’re thinking of social democracy, not democratic socialism

    My apologies, they’re similar terms and I align with neither, so I sometimes confuse them. King appeared to be more of a social democrat than a true socialist, though he did associate with more radical socialists.

    BLM was a failure because they have the same false consciousness you are recommending.

    No, BLM failed because they didn’t have consistent or lasting messaging. There are multiple ways to get that, and they did none of them. Chants don’t change laws, actual proposed laws do, and protests and whatnot are there to get media attention for those proposed laws.