• Zozano@aussie.zone
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    2 months ago

    Jordan Peterson would still be confined to influencing a small group of uni students if there weren’t protests to remove him from his tenured position at the university he was teaching at. (Regarding the Canadian trans bill)

    The protestors who got him fired made him into a global figure.

    People who use racial slurs are assholes for sure. The point I was getting at is that the left keeps thinking they can break these twats, but it reliably backfires.

    Another example: Dave Chapelle.

    If people just ignored him then he wouldn’t have milked multiple standup specials for the one subject.

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      Didn’t Peterson get his fame from his YouTube channel?

      I don’t follow him much at all.

      I see what you’re saying though.

      You have to call people out on their shit, also.

      There has to be some happy medium between calling people out when they’re being awful, which seems necessary to advance society, and hounding them relentlessly.

      I feel like I draw that line exactly where too many other people agree with you.

      If you take the initiative to report that woman for using a racial slur, that’s at least as valid(I’d argue more valid) an action as that woman semantically broadening a racial slur.

      But if you read a report about how she got fired for using a racial slur, and is being condemned, and then decide to go after her, then you’re just wasting time, discrediting your perspective, and kicking a horse while it’s shot.

      Problem is that people like to fight battles after they’re already won, because they’re easier to be a part of then.

      If everybody is agreeing with you, you probably don’t need to keep saying what you’re saying.

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        I think Peterson had a YouTube audience before he got fired, but his lectures then were mostly mundane ramblings about philosophy and psychology.

        I think it’s fine to call people out on their shit, but too many people see themselves as the arbitors of justice, with no room for rehabilitation or recourse.

        The dumbest thing about the Dave Chapelle protests outside Netflix was the entitlement. They wanted to keep their subscriptions while demanding Dave gets kicked off.

        They had it backwards. The correct course of action is to stop supporting Netflix and encourage others to do so.

        For the consumer to demand that the publisher punishes the performer, so the consumer can continue to utilise the platform is just so spineless.

        It’s like protesting nestle. “Stop poisoning baby formula in third world countries, so I don’t feel morally bankrupt from buying your bottled water”