He. Tried. To. Kill. You.

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      They were never the law and order party. They were and are the put minorities and poor in prison party.

      Remember it’s all about hurting the right people.

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      So, the rules matter when they lose to popular vote but win in the Electoral College, but don’t matter when they are arrested?

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      What is next on their agenda? Making lynching legal, as it is a decision by the people, for the people, or what?

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    It’s not that he actually believes this, it’s that the party’s base has determined that you can’t oppose Trump, so they need to find a reason why people should vote for them instead of Trump while not taking the position that Trump should be in jail.

    It’s the usual mental gymnastics. Desantis is doing the exact same thing.

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      This is the best answer.

      An assault on Trump is an assault on the idiots who made it their identity to support him.

      They can’t let him be insulted.

      The only winning move is to just offer a better solution and ignore him.

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        The only winning move is to just offer a better solution and ignore him.

        You’d think a better solution would be easy to find, but they spent so long indoctrinating their own followers to be loyal to names rather than concepts that they now fear these followers may attach to the Trump name.

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      It’s sad how quickly they forget the buttery males. Ol’ “lock her up” Hillary “basket of deplorables” Clinton was so deserving of jail time because of those emails, but insurrection and election fraud? Nah. Those are locker room felonies.

      The GOP is a joke and the rubes that choose to plug their ears and ignore the obvious are clowns 🤡🇺🇸

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      It’s probably going to be a new Trump party if he’s not nominated so for Republicans they need him. It’s the same with right wing media. Trump has such broad support that there’s no way anyone on the right can effectively oppose him at this point.

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    “That needs to be left to the American people” - but only for one day out of four years in a heavily gerrymandered system where big money has done everything to attempt to dissolve social networks in favor of acquiring and bombarding propaganda through local and mainstream media, and that’s only before another four years of major corruption scandals with idiots who look the other way when given stupid conspiracy theories wear down the last vestiges of democracy in the US that are left.

    - Added the quiet part

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    Funny how convicted felons can have their voting rights taken away, but letting a person who tried to sabotage the voting system to win unfairly run for president again? Suuure!

    Not only that, but it’s a direct parallel to how the rich have so much more rights than the poor - and the worst part is this guy’s fans ARE dirt poor, some may even be felons, who have no right to vote, some of which probably tried to vote illegally because “owning the libs is what matters”… because again, decentralisation, proper vote count, democratic and parliamentary process, this is all bullshit anyways, so let’s just game the system!

    Like you have to be a special kind of stupid - and I don’t mean that in an ableist kind of way, but in a way that this needs to be studied by scientists, because of how absurdly brain-dead it really is.

    Like here’s a hint: if you set a political precedent where your guy can do it, what’s to prevent the other guy from doing it? Does MAGA stand for “make America gullible again”?

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      I agree with the sentiment that his actions should preclude him from running, but felon disenfranchisement is something that isn’t talked about nearly enough and I think it’s absolutely insane so many people lose their RIGHT to vote.

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      The worst part about all this is many who stormed the capital had nice businesses, trucks and income. I agree with the need to study this brain-dead disease though. Either our population is more absurdly stupid than is measurable or they all ate lead paint chips as a child.

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    Does pence know what justice being “left to the people” looks like?

    It’s fuckin’ guillotiney, mate.

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    Republican Logic (or lack there of)

    Impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors? “No. That should be left to the people”

    Impeachment for treason? “No. That should be left to the people”

    Legal repercussions for blatant lawlessness? “No. That should be left to the people”

    Losing election because you are a threat to the society? “Lol. That should NOT be left to the people. Find me 11,800 votes right now”

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      “It should be left to OUR people to decide.”

      That’s what they mean. They know the people that vote for them will largely vote for a fucking Ham Sandwich if it has an R next to its name. So they know that they’ll almost certainly never face consequences for anything so long as it’s up to the people that vote for them. They can purge voter rolls, strategically course polling places, attack mail in voting. There tons of things they can do which will impact potential Democratic voters more than Republican voters.

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    Didnt the American People give themselves a constitution and laws already for this reason?

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        No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

        https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/

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            That not true! Racists also value something that resembles the first amendment, because they think it grants them a platform to be vile.

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          Ah, so he’s essentially been disqualified at this point. I suppose a conviction will make that certain.

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            Unfortunately, innocence until guilt is proven means that merely accusing him of something, no matter how dire or how well backed is not sufficient, he remains innocent by default and thus not disqualified. The courts need to get moving.

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              I feel that the timing here was always going to be a gamble, but is still very intentional.

              Move too slowly and you can’t secure a conviction by election day 2024.

              Move too quickly, and you have a weaker case, and risk acquittal…and if you do manage to get a conviction, it gives Trump and his legal team time before the election to work out an appeal, overturn, etc.

              I feel that these DAs were very, very deliberate in their timing (suggested by how they all got their grand jury indictments within a relatively narrow span of one another) to build as solid a case as they could while still allowing enough time for the trials to play out…but not leaving enough time for Trump’s lawyers to try any maneuvering before the election.

              Sort of like a team down by two points running their two minute drill, but intentionally slowing it down and calling plays designed to perfectly line up their kicker for a chip shot field goal to win…and suck up as much possible time as they can, ideally having the clock run to zero as the kick is in the air, giving the other team no chance to respond before the end of the game.