• tenth@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Those countries let the US have their bases and troops there. It’s an agreeement. If it is a threat then those countries make their own mistakes for trusting the US

    Whereas Russian actually invaded Ukraine, killed and raped innocent people, caused the whole world to suffer. Russia will pay for its crime

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      The people of Ryukyu (Okinawa), which are already occupied once by Japan, do not want the US there. This is a regular subject of protests in the region, and the single largest defining aspect of politics. The current governor of Okinawa is staunchly against the US occupation of his territory because they cause endless hardship for the locals. US soldiers continue to kill and rape innocent people here on a regular basis.

      You will be hard-pressed to find people here that are excited about the US military bases, outside the US lapdogs in the government. If we held a referendum on the topic tomorrow, it would probably be the biggest voter turnout Japan has ever seen.

      South Korea is basically the same, albeit with even more sexual assaults than we have to deal with.

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      caused the whole world to suffer

      In addition to what others have already said, this line in particular is complete bullshit. The vast majority of the world doesn’t care about Ukraine in any way beyond “war is bad,” and indeed a large chunk of the global south has expressed that the war is entirely the West’s fault for provoking Russia constantly since the collapse of the USSR. The only people suffering from the war are in Ukraine, Russia, or any of a number of European nations that were strong-armed into shutting off their access to Russian fossil fuels by the US so American oil companies could dominate the energy markets in that region of the world at the expense of workers who saw their utility bills go up 4x overnight.

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        The vast majority of the world doesn’t care about Ukraine in any way beyond “war is bad,” and indeed a large chunk of the global south has expressed that the war is entirely the West’s fault for provoking Russia constantly since the collapse of the USSR. The only people suffering from the war are in Ukraine, Russia, or any of a number of European nations that were strong-armed into shutting off their access to Russian fossil fuels

        Well, no. Those aren’t the only people suffering. Millions of people are suffering due to the grain deal falling apart. Both the US and Russia urged Africans to be patient as food from Ukraine and Russia will continue to be exported to them. Russia and Ukraine partially went through with this until recently. The blame aside, at least Russia and Ukraine provided something to Africans. I don’t believe the US has done anything substantial which shouldn’t be surprising. Africans still remember the US promising vaccines before giving them Jack shit, which is why they’re willing to talk with Russia and China more than they are with the US or Europe. They may not care about Ukraine’s conflict, but they care about the food being impacted by said conflict. Otherwise they wouldn’t keep urging Russia and Ukraine to broker a new deal since the war started.

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      Okay I get the crimes, its a war of two emerging capitalist states sending their people to die for senseless nationbuilding

      but dear god how do you say that about the US and think you’re the enlightened one here.

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      I didn’t know Assad consented to Americans, Israelis, and Turks dropping bombs in Syria. I also didn’t know Cuba allowed the US to occupy its country to torture Muslims. Oh right, I forgot the nonexistent colonial government signed a contract with the US, the same occupational contract that most of the world agrees is inhumane, except the US and a few of its allies, including Ukraine.