• AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org
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    2 months ago

    Archival and piracy are different. For you to pirate, there was already an archival copy. Mission accomplished. You downloading a copy without paying for it is not you helping preservation.

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      2 months ago

      For you to pirate, there was already an archival copy.

      is it not the case that the more archival copies there are of something the more likely it is to survive?

      There is a rather simple paradox, in the world of online and digital archival where, unless you archive it, nobody else has any reason to archive it. I could simply not archive any of the stuff i have archived, under the pretense that someone else probably already archived it, but that’s just a guess and i have no idea whether or not that’s the case.

      Once i archive something, it’s possible someone else has already archived it, but i being a known archiver of that material (or not, most archives are private) also substantiates that same paradox.

      And besides, let’s say i am archiving, how am i supposed to verify the integrity of my archival copy? Am i not supposed to consume it? That’s the most effective and reliable way to determine the integrity of an archive. Sure i could use hashes or checksums, but those are only are reliable as the original creation of the hash/checksum.

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        is it not the case that the more archival copies there are of something the more likely it is to survive?

        No, it is not. Compare 10,000,000 copies of something that only live on some random people’s phones or 1 copy in the library of Congress where it is someone’s job to manage and preserve it. 50 years from now I think it’s way more likely that the Library of Congress one is still around than the random ones.

        Am i not supposed to consume it? That’s the most effective and reliable way to determine the integrity of an archive. Sure i could use hashes or checksums, but those are only are reliable as the original creation of the hash/checksum.

        No. Consuming it is neither efficient nor reliable. How would you even know when you consume it that it is the original?

        And none of this justifies the piracy itself as opposed to buying it and archiving it? Or if you don’t have the capabilities or means, buying a copy and then pirating that said copy as the archive.