• AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
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    2 months ago

    I disagree that gatekeeping is either of those things. I also don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask people not to publicly associate themselves with a thing if they know nothing at all about that thing.

    The bar is on the floor here.

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      2 months ago

      What people choose to associate themselves with in public is exactly fuck all of your business. Don’t be like the meme guy, tend to your own garden.

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      2 months ago

      Gatekeeping really is not either of these things, but people can wear whatever they like. I can’t say I get why someone would do it at all, but not my problem.

      There’s a huge difference between using it as a conversation starter and asking about their favorite songs or whatever, since it’s reasonable to assume they know and like the band, and going “name 3 songs” because you assume they don’t listen to the band and also somehow care about that.

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      2 months ago

      Gatekeeping isn’t inherently misogynistic or conformist, but the motivations in cases like this probably are.

      I also don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask people not to publicly associate themselves with a thing if they know nothing at all about that thing.

      Nobody owes anyone an explanation of how entitled they are to wear a band’s t-shirt.

      I’ve listened to enough iron maiden to know that I like the band, but could only name one song off the top of my head. Do I have your permission to wear their t-shirt?

      You’re channeling the same energy as someone that feels entitled to know about a stranger’s genitals if their bone structure seems misaligned with the gender they’re presenting.

      It’s so easy to not be an asshole watch this:

      Slayer fan:

      Iron maiden! Nice! I saw them play at XXXX back in XXXX. It was a wicked show.

      Iron maiden fan:

      Oh wow, that sounds so fun! I’ve just learned about them, but I’d love to see them in concert someday. The metal community is so welcoming!

      Or:

      Oh wow. I don’t really listen to them, but they were my cousin’s favorite band, she died recently, so I wear this shirt when I’m missing her.

      Or:

      Oh wow, I was at that show too!

      Or:

      my uncle is the drummer and is always giving me these

      Or:

      Uh huh? I just like the colours of the shirt.

      Life is so much better if you don’t make nasty assumptions.