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  • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
    2136·
    24 days ago

    built from the ground up with rust. Why the fuck is that the first and usually only (non-)feature to mention in any project written in rust? Who the fuck cares?

    I fucking hate the rust cult.

    • UnfairUtan@lemmy.world
      442·
      24 days ago

      Because most things built with Rust are faster than their equivalent, especially electron-based apps.

      So as a user, regardless of the cult following, i’m happy that this tech exists and is being adopted so fast.

      • Matúš Maštena@lemmy.ml
        51·
        23 days ago

        Because most things built with Rust are faster than their equivalent, especially electron-based apps.

        And safer, since Electron is just Chromium, which is mainly written in C++.

      • Mihies@programming.dev
        54·
        24 days ago

        It’s primarily about safety, not speed. Any C or C++ program should match the speed but not the correctness.

        • Eager Eagle@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          24 days ago

          no, it’s primarily about speed and resources because the comparison is often not against a hypothetical C/C++ alternative, but against an existing one that is slower and more resource intensive.

          • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
            41·
            23 days ago

            So they should say that it is written with performance in mind. I don’t care how you achieved that. rust, c++, assembly, whatever.

            Mention that it has very good collaborative editing.

            Mention features.

            • upto60percentoff@kbin.run
              5·
              23 days ago

              VS Code is written with performance in mind. Compared with other electron apps, it’s very performant.

              Compared with even a sloppily written native app though, it’s not great.

              • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
                21·
                23 days ago

                so fucking say that. Designed to be fastest editor. Show benchmarks. Talk about your features. I still don’t care what tools you used to achieve it. It being written in rust does not automatically make things fast. It may even slow things down, in some cases.

              • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
                1·
                23 days ago

                I don’t care how easy it is for the developer. And modern c++ is slightly harder than rust, but not all that difficult to get right with smart pointers and iterators etc.

                • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today
                  3·
                  23 days ago

                  If you care about your software being stable and secure, you should care about how easy the programming language used makes and encourages that.

                  People aren’t robots and make mistakes often.

                  • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
                    1·
                    22 days ago

                    translating readable, maintainable code to an unmaintanable mess to solve a couple of issues thit might not be there in the first place, is not so much a winning proposition.

                    An os? sure. A text editor? not so much

            • crispy_kilt@feddit.de
              1·
              22 days ago

              Everone claims their software is fast. When stating that it is written in a native language it is actually believable.

              • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
                1·
                22 days ago

                but it didn’t do jack shit to help me believe that. Because they did not say that that was the goal. So there was no credibility to affect in the first place.

                Also, your argument does not make sense anyway. As a native language, due to some extra copying needed and some runtime checks that cannot be elided, it is slower than c++. It can be almost as fast, really close, but ever so slightly slower.

                Electron is written in c++. A native language. A native language faster than rust (we’re talking about speed not safety here). And yet, it is the canonical example of “bloated and slow”. If you were to rewrite electron in rust, it’d be safer, but also at least just as slow.

                So if the editor really is faster, it’s not because the code was written in rust. It’s because the devs are writing better code. That’s why just saying it’s written in rust is useless.

    • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today
      2·
      23 days ago

      I care because I know the values of those programmers in a narrow scope and won’t be as annoyed when I inevitably have to go debug the rust code instead of C.

      However, that values statement was challenged by automatic binary downloads without user confirmation.

      Luckily the fix is already in progress, but its concerning it was ever implemented.