I hate that this is the debate we’re having now

I also hate that I’m feeding into the NYT’s lazy and transparent attempt to undo their previous partisanship with new opposite partisanship like those two things cancel out and add up to journalism

But what the hell, if that’s where we’re at, this is a relevant data point about the landscape

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    Biden will lose. This is a critical juncture, just like 2016, and the Dems are going to fuck it up again, and then blame the voters for not voting when they had every opportunity as a party to correct their shit and not put a person who actually can’t form coherent sentences as their candidate.

    If this is the best they can do, then the party needs major reforms. They are handing this to Trump.

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      2 months ago

      Who do you think should replace Biden?

      I am holding a graph of poll numbers comparing Biden with other Democratic nominees vs Trump, which I plan to send you once you have made your selection

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        2 months ago

        So you’re just straight-up announcing your intention to immediately dismiss any answer you’re given.

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          No, I am warning them that I plan to show the poll numbers comparing Biden to whoever they select. Dismissing is different from debunking with evidence. But yes, I plan to debunk whatever they say, assuming it’s realistic enough to be found in a list of even some pretty outlandish Democratic possibilities.

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            2 months ago

            Well, you intend to paste a graph that doesn’t take into account that no potential candidate other than Biden has campaigned at all, and that despite Biden’s campaigning, his numbers are still shit.

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              2 months ago

              Moving goalposts is good clean fun, isn’t it? I am finished though. I have chased them around for as long as I wanted to.

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                You’re taking advantage of a catch-22. No one’s numbers can go up until they campaign, and no one’s gonna campaign unless Biden steps aside.