The only real attempt at monetisation that I’ve seen is https://beetoons.tv/, but they use their own crypto - making it like Odysee. Why is that?

Edit: Please, before you answer consider this monetisation doesn’t mean ads!

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    Why does it need monetisation? Why can’t we have a place online where we aren’t bombarded with adverts or having our data vacuumed to sell to advertisers?

    I have no issues with sponsorship in videos or creators plugging their stores/Pateron/Kofi in content. What I mind is pre roll and shoehorned ads partway through content that have no respect for my audio settings or the flow of the content.

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      4 months ago

      Why does it need monetisation?

      Hosting costs money. “Monetization” doesn’t mean disruptive ads.

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        Hosting cost money, so an host can setup a patreon to make money to host his peertube instance.

        Monetisation like YouTube-monetisation means ads everywhere because, monetisation on YouTube comes from publicity.

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          Hosting cost money, so an host can setup a patreon to make money to host his peertube instance.

          That’s a type of monetization.

          Monetisation like YouTube-monetisation means ads everywhere because, monetisation on YouTube comes from publicity.

          OP didn’s ask about “YouTube-like monetization”.

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            4 months ago

            Op wasn’t very specific on what monetisation he was talking about either.

            What is your point exactly?

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              Op wasn’t very specific on what monetisation he was talking about either.

              Why did you make crazy assumptions, then?

              What is your point exactly?

              That you made crazy assumptions that were never in OP’s question in the first place.

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      Why does it need monetisation?

      Because the number of people who are willing to put in the work and create quality content without any potential reward is too low to be relevant. Without a credible model for monetisation, content creators will always prefer to stay in the closed platforms. If we want the open web to be a real alternative for everyone and not just a fringe thing, we need to be able to attract everyone.

      data vacuumed to sell to advertisers?

      Maybe I am getting old, but I do remember the time where “ads” did not automatically imply “Surveillance Capitalism”. The problem is not the former, but the latter.

      I have no issues with sponsorship in videos or creators plugging their stores/Pateron/Kofi in content.

      Easy for you to say, but how many creators do you know that can make a living exclusively off their Patreon? And of those that do, how many managed to get known without putting their content on a closed platform?

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        the number of people who are willing to put in the work and create quality content without any potential reward is too low

        Maybe, but the number of dimwits willing to make sensationalist drivel to make a buck is staggering. Exhibit A, any Youtuber. I prefer not to have that incentive in the Fediverse.

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          Do you know that story about the pottery teacher that made an experiment by separating students into two groups, one was going to be graded by how many pieces they made (quantity), the other by their best piece (quality), and that in the end the group that worried about quantity ended up producing better work than the ones focused on quality?

          It’s the same thing with the internet. You are familiar with Sturgeon’s Law, right? Instead of looking at the 90% of crap (quality), we should find always to churn out as much content as possible so that the non-crap 10% can be of a reasonable number.

          I honestly do not care about the dimwits on YouTube, but it pains me that I can not convince someone like @geerlingguy@mastodon.social to leave YouTube to post his content on an open alternative, because that would be the same as asking to stop having the resources to keep doing the amazing work that he does.