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Did they ever actually get the game working as it should?
I checked getting on for a year ago and apparently it was still in a bit of a state then.
That being said, even though people were furious about the performance, the lack of depth was what really made the game a disappointment.
I played the whole thing on ps5, did about 90 hours. It’s good now. Especially the mantis blades that come out of your arms and the quick hacks that let you control the cameras then hack all the guards so they shoot themselves or fry their implants. I did a ninja hacker build. Totally op but it was still fun. And I’ve heard good things about the gorilla arms.
The city feels more alive on ps5, lots of people, and I never had any issues with the cars or motorcycle glitching. If you like cyberpunk stuff it’s worth it and the dlc is coming out. There are areas where you can tell where they had to pull back, like the clothing options which all suck and the body stuff which has no purpose or unless you are changing clothes. Also I didn’t like V’s voice character at first but it grew on me. The acting is good all around.
One of the first pieces of clothing I picked up were chaps. When equipped, I was running around with my dong out.
I stumbled into ninja hacker as my build too. It’s so fun!
the lack of depth was what really made the game a disappointment
this right here. I didn’t experience any bugs at all on pc but the game is just bad, the world doesn’t feel lived in, and the gameplay is just meh (some guns were fun though)
Working public transit would have gone a long way towards this kind of immersion. It’s a damn shame too, because the system technically exists, and there are even placeholders for stations.
I think there were a lot of resources put towards getting the whole damn thing to run on last gen XB and PS4 which just made so many things impossible, and obviously you dont really want to have a couple versions out there without feature parity. They ended up with it anyway, but I think we may have seen a more complete product on launch had those dev resources not been needed for the older consoles.
The game is more stable now, however it is still as shallow as a puddle and major systems like driving and melee combat still feel as clunky and unfun as day one
While I wish CDPR had pulled the band-aid and canceled (with refund or free upgrade to next gen) the PS4 and Xbox Series platforms, my controversial opinion is that this game has been GoTY on PC since day one. Plenty of my favorite games had rough launches (Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, No Man’s Sky, Witcher 3, Skyrim - hell, I even lost an hour to the cross-save bug in Baldurs Gate 3), but it became a meme to hate on CP2077, and I understand why the devs claim to this day that the game deserves more credit.
I understand that players are tired of broken launches, and I agree that devs should be more cautious about what features they show in alpha/beta stages to manage hype, but I think the oversized backlash this game received stopped or delayed a large swathe of gamers from experiencing a truly great game and gave the devs way more stress than they had earned.
They literally lied about what features the game would have. Not even the Phantom Liberty updates make it the game they were promising all the way up to launch.
Yes, it was far far more than just a buggy release. Even if the game was originally released in the state it’s in now people would still have been pissed. The bugs were just a distraction.
I could have lived with the bugs and poor performance, but the game was shallow af and very much different from what we were sold for years.
It was basically the we have X at home meme, but with a meta twist.
Yeah, the only other game that was so blazenly lied about before launch was No Man’s Sky and to their credit Hello Games actually implemented everything that was promised back then now and then some, for free.
Damn, a lot to unpack here.
- Broken launches aren’t something to be tired of, imagine if everytime you bought a car it has to be recalled. Every Sandwich you ate gave you food poisoning. All of the tools you buy snap the first time they undergo a few foot pounds of torque.
This market runs on money, and the only way to combine them to put out functional games is to refuse to pay for sub par products. Anything less and they’ll go “oh shit, we’re still making money. I guess we don’t need to provide anything beyond a tech demo to rake in 70 bucks + cosmetics, etc.”
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They absolutely lied about their systems. Fully functional crowds and AI? Bullshit. A cop system that actually works? Bullshit. They pop out of a hole in the ground and insta-gank you. If they can’t even replicate decade old police technology that games like GTA IV managed to get right, then they should have just given you the “DONT KILL CIVILIANS” with a game over screen instead of some half-baked system of having police that spawn behind and instantly kill you. A total waste of a mechanic that they couldn’t even fully implement or commit to.
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While the game was mostly broken on last gen consoles, I have a fairly powerful desktop and still got game breaking bugs on occasion with only mildly infuriating ones fairly frequently. To say the game was GOTY on day one is absolutely mind-boggling. Your standards for games are clearly through the floor on this one if you really consider it GOTY on release lol I wouldn’t even consider it that good NOW and I’ve just recently 100%'ed the damn game.
I’ll agree that it got more hate than it deserves, but let’s not swing the pendulum the other way and pretend this is some nugget of gold that people just didn’t see. It was broken and got treated as such.
If by rough launch you mean pretty much omitted majority of things they said will be in the game, then yes. Rough launch. And here I am worrying when indie devs don’t have enough time to fix minor bug in their games.
What about it makes it GOTY for you? It was a broken, hollow shell of what they had been promising for years.
Honestly you’re not wrong, the launch of the game was actually horrible. The game was good in theory but was halfway executed and shoved into our faces as something great when it obviously wasn’t when they shipped it.
I think a lot of the negativity also comes from misunderstanding what the game is.
Just like you, I played the game on release (on PC) and it is for me one of the best games of all time for one specific reason: immersion and story. That’s exactly what I expected from CDPR after Witcher 3 (another story and immersion focused game) and that’s exactly what I got. I didn’t expect a company known for their story focus and relatively weaker gameplay to deliver a game focused on gameplay or sandbox elements.
I think a lot of people wanted something that CDPR was never going to deliver, but it seems like Phantom Liberty is leaning more into the sandbox that people wanted and (unsurprisingly) didn’t get at release.
You can’t say that when for literally YEARS CDPR advertised the game as being exactly that. A futuristic, play-who-you-want RPG sandbox. Instead we practically got a Far Cry clone with light RPG elements. They just quietly stopped advertising it as such.
But people remember. Just because you didn’t expect it yourself doesn’t mean it wasn’t advertised as such.
Or maybe they simply wanted the product that was advertised?
Not “expected”, but specifically advertised.
I stopped playing the game because of how bad I found the story and the characters.
So hyped for this. The changes it adds are huge.
I can’t wait (for the reviews.)
I’m seeing this on Xbox marketplace sold as a bundle (game and expansion), but when I check the expansion it says not sold separately. Are they actually onlying pushing this as a bundle on Xbox? I already own the game so if I can’t buy just the expansion, I will not be playing it.
