• Walt J. Rimmer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Sadly, with recent events, all I can think about with this is how Linus Sebastion would go on the WAN Show and say things like, “You don’t need a union unless you have bad management, and I never want my employees to need a union.”

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      1 year ago

      The counter statement is that a union is insurance for when good management goes bad.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, a union is simply a way for workers to organize independently from management. While it’s useful for countering bad management and things like that, that’s not its only purpose. And anyone saying that it is either doesn’t know as much about unions as they think or is anti-union while trying not to say as much directly.

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          1 year ago

          Yes of course. I was meaning in terms as a direct response to that pretty dumb statement from Linus.

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      I do actually agree with his initial statement, which was “if my workers need a union to stay safe, I will consider it a personal failure.”

      …absolutely agreed. His conclusion of that his workers shouldn’t need one though, is the problem. They should have one. However, if the union needs to step in because he’s being a dick, then he has failed indeed. Guess it was a good thing they had a union though, right? Oh wait…

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        We need an FOIA for employees. For example, if one employee thinks they’re getting paid less for their job than they should be, they should be able to request what somebody else is making and then be able to know she negotiate past that.

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      1 year ago

      That’s like saying “You don’t need democracy unless you have a bad king, and I never want my subjects to need democracy.”

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      1 year ago

      My favorite counter is that unions aren’t only used as protection against management. Unions democratize the workplace!

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      I always found that funny. And then he was like, IF YOU THINK THE UNION IS A BLACK AND WHITE QUESTION YOU ARE AN IDIOT. :D :D.

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      He has a point.

      The problem is that because of Capitalism, there is no such thing as good management.

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      Blasphemy! Unions are just algebraic data types without any guardrails. If the programmer misuses them, that’s their own fault for b$:, 9^\⊂ƒ~>[→ZzF™×#
      Segmentation fault (core dumped)

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    When I worked at Best Buy I attended two full paid meetings about the horrors of unions when the Obama administration made it easier to create a union.

    They even cancelled all our in home jobs one day for an anti union meeting

    Holy crap I don’t know who at Best Buy wrote all those presentations but the language they used was a master class in brainwashing. I probably would be a flat earther of they spent enough time crafting their wording 😄

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    1 year ago

    I read “Onions” at first and, while I didn’t disagree with the sentiment, I was somewhat confused

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    They might be annoying and less fun than just freewheeling without one, but when the consequences come down the line, you’re going to wish you’d taken the minimal steps to be in one