Is it “Camel-uh” or “Cam-ahl-uh”?
Kah-muh-luh as it would be pronounced in her mind. Or Camille, if it was anglicized.
ML making fun of a Black woman’s name. I wish I was surprised, but I’m not.
No one is making fun. It’s not a common name and people want to make sure that pronounce it correctly.
That’s an Indian name
I think it’s an honest question, which is a respectful thing to ask if you don’t know. I myself haven’t been sure, because I’ve heard it pronounced multiple different ways even by news pundits.
What are you talking about? Nobody here is making fun of her name.
Watch miss marvel and listen how her mother calls her.
However she pronounces it.
Right right right
and that would be … ?
Oh, I found the video on her Youtube channel literally addressing this question back in 2016:
Comma-luh
and that would be … ?
…the correct pronunciation.
Did you read the rest of my post? You can’t say “correctly pronounce it”, and then not give instruction. That doesn’t help anyone.
If the video specifically made to teach you how to pronounce her name didn’t help, what makes you think I can?
You didn’t link to that video.
I never said I did.
You referred to it retroactively.
Your original post tells us to pronounce it the way she says it, but doesn’t actually show us how she says it.
How did you expect us to pronounce it correctly if we haven’t heard her say it?
KAH-muh-luh HAER-is
Kamala (/ˈkɑːmələ/) Harris (/ˈhærɪs/)
Anyone have the IPA pronunciation?
/kə.mə.lə/ is the sound. Since she’s half-Dravidian, we don’t do schwa deletion over here.
That’s not how she pronounces her name, so it’s not her name.
The Vice president of the United States is named Kamala (/ˈkɑːmələ/) Harris (/ˈhærɪs/)
To somehow suggest that the sound of अ (ə) becomes आ (ɑː) is ridiculous. It’s not कामला, it’s कमला. Use an IPA reader to check the sound you’ve provided, versus mine.
Her name isn’t कमला, it’s Kamala. It’s written in the latin alphabet on her American birth certificate. She pronounces her own name as ˈkɑːmələ. It doesn’t matter what the similar-sounding common name from a different country used by different people is. Her name is Kamala. ˈkɑːmələ.
It’s written in the latin alphabet on her American birth certificate
So is mine and every citizen born in India, a non-English country. Your point being that people get to decide how to butcher other’s name because it was * checks character* written in Latin?
She pronounces her own name as ˈkɑːmələ.
PoC immigrants are forced to anglicize their names. Koreans and Chinese folks are forced to have a alternative English name. Indians are forced to deal with butchered pronounciations, or pick a shorter nickname. But hey, thanks for being a part of the problem.
It doesn’t matter what the similar-sounding common name from a different country used by different people is.
It does, and this behaviour speaks volume about how much you respect other people and their culture. John isn’t pronounced as Yohn in non-English speaking areas, right?
First of all, If we anglicized her name, we would get 'kəmɑːlə, not ˈkɑːmələ, so that argument makes no sense. English has a tendancy to stress the second to last syllable of a name or word, and shift the vowel there accordingly. I will admit that you’re right in that the birth certificate thing isn’t the best example of what determines a name. Trans people, or anyone else who wishes to change their name from what their parents wrote at birth, are completely valid in their new name. But the point I was making is that she hasn’t embraced the Devanagari spelling of her name, the way she has the Latin spelling. She’s chosen a pronunciation of that spelling for herself, and been vocal about how she wants it said. Respect it, or shut up.
Second, she’s not an immigrant. She was born in the US and is an American citizen by birth, which is (unfortunately) a requirement to run for president. Her name may originate from a similar sounding name from a different language, but that similar sounding name is not her name. The experiences of people who were happy with their name and were later forced to change it is a separate issue. To insist she change her name to fit your perception of what she should be called is exactly the thing you’re chastising me for doing. Which again, I’m not. I’m supporting her in the name she chooses to use.
Third, “John” is another example that actually proves why your argument is wrong. It comes from the old hebrew יְהוֹחָנָן. But as other cultures adopted the name and changed it to be their own over hundreds of years, small changes turned it into Ιωάννης in Greek, Johannes in Latin, Jean in French, and eventually John in modern English. Why is the same thing happening to Kamala such an issue for you?
Her name is what she says her name is, and the circumstances that led her to choose her name are MORE VALID than your opinion of what her name should be. End of discussion.
Trans people, or anyone else who wishes to change their name from what their parents wrote at birth, are completely valid in their new name.
Whataboutism to twist and call me transphobic? Why do you mention trans people here? ‘Pronouns’ and ‘pronounce’ have nothing in common.
Third, “John” is another example that actually proves why your argument is wrong. It comes from the old hebrew יְהוֹחָנָן. But as other cultures adopted the name and changed it to be their own over hundreds of years, small changes turned it into Ιωάννης in Greek, Johannes in Latin, Jean in French, and eventually John in modern English. Why is the same thing happening to Kamala such an issue for you?
Because that change was organic, and took hundreds of years? Are you going to conveniently ignore that?
Her name is what she says her name is
…while ignoring all the nuances, that is, her conditioning by a society that has taught her to internalize hatred towards her own identity? Attitude like that of your is the reason why second and third generation immigrants suffer from the pain of having a cultural disconnect, making them feel like an alien - being discriminated in their own country, and being a foreigner to their own culture. And now, you’re trying to gaslight a native speaker?
It does not take a genius to look at the butchered transliteration(s) - (funny how there’s no agreement on a singular pronounciation?) versus the original pronunciation on Wiktionary.
I’m an American who lives in Germany. The name my parents chose begins with [dʒ], but I haven’t introduced or thought of myself like that in years. My name therefore begins with [j].
It’s really cool that you’re informed about the language that her name stems from, but that’s not the name she uses.
My friend, Americans do not care about how words are pronounced in the original language/location.
Some of us do.
It’s a name, not a word.
Proper nouns are, in fact, words.
Man they really don’t teach you guys basic English.
Proper nouns are names. Birmingham, AL and Birmingham, UK have different pronunciations
Proper nouns are names.
… Yes? And for the full points, what is a noun?
A noun is a part of speech representing an object that can be described.
It’s a name, not a pronoun.
I say it as [ˈka.ma.la].
Geno·cider Fas·cist
Careful you don’t cut yourself on all that edge
Mocking enablers of zionist ethnic cleansing is so edgy guys
I pronounce it like the toki pona word “kalama”
No, i do not swap “la” and “ma”
Actually, this is the right pronounciation, but obviously, with the words swapped.
Emphasis is on the first syllable, is how I’ve heard it.
“Kamala”
The Indian (Sanskrit) name is pronounced ka-ma-laa (meaning lotus), with no stress, and no gap in between the syllables. The first two 'a’s are pronounced like the ‘u’ in rum, while the last is the same sound but longer (so like the ‘a’ in calm).
The US Presidential candidate’s name is pronounced the way she likes, which in this case is closer to ko-ma-laa.
Every word has stress. You probably mean the first phoneme is stressed. And the “rum” sound you’re looking for is called the “schwa”
Not in classical Sanskrit. Vedic Sanskrit had pitch accent, which had been lost by the classical Sanskrit era. English has stress accent. But many languages do not have stress accent, and either have pitch accent or syllables are not accented at all.
Every word has stress.
In most Indian languages, most words are unstressed. There is a distinction between long and short syllables, but that comes from vowel length, not stress. A few words (like him-AA-la-ya) do have stress, but this is the exception and usually happens due to conjugation.
You probably mean the first phoneme is stressed.
No, kamala is unstressed.
And the “rum” sound you’re looking for is called the “schwa”
Yes.
Car-mullah
Comma-la
,-la
Ga-ma-la
