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JULY 25, 2024

Statement by Vice President Kamala Harris

Yesterday, at Union Station in Washington, D.C. we saw despicable acts by unpatriotic protestors and dangerous hate-fueled rhetoric.

I condemn any individuals associating with the brutal terrorist organization Hamas, which has vowed to annihilate the State of Israel and kill Jews. Pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric is abhorrent and we must not tolerate it in our nation.

I condemn the burning of the American flag. That flag is a symbol of our highest ideals as a nation and represents the promise of America. It should never be desecrated in that way.

I support the right to peacefully protest, but let’s be clear: Antisemitism, hate and violence of any kind have no place in our nation.

  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    If we’re actually taking about pro-Hamas graffiti and rhetoric, this is not an unreasonable statement. I didn’t see the protests myself, but it is possible that what she’s trying to say was that a portion of the protestors went beyond support for Palestine to actively support Hamas. If that’s the case, denouncing sympathizers of a terrorist organization, as distinct from sympathizers of Palestinians as a whole, is a valid position.

    If she’s just broadly painting all anti-genocide protesters as pro-Hamas, that’s fucked. And if she’s not, she could have been a bit more explicit about it.

    But the first interpretation is certainly plausible, so I won’t jump to conclusions just yet. Would definitely like to see some clarification from her.

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      There’s a decades-long history of Zionists conflating Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism, which is what Harris is tranparently doing here.

      “Oppose Israel’s settler colonial conquest of Palestine? You must be anti-semitic.”

      Also violent struggle against colonialism is necessary and justified, unless you want to adopt the Gandian pacifist strategy of doing your enemy’s job for them:

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    She’s going for that undecided vote. She figures everyone that fears Trump will vote for her regardless (not an outrageous idea) so she needs to secure all the right-leaning individuals that know trump is a psychopath.

    Politicians gonna politics.

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      She’s not chasing voters at all, she’s chasing donors. She’s also apparently whispering sweet nothings to Wall Street about firing Lina Kahn.

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      There is no undecided vote, Kamala is competing with leftists who are abstaining or voting third party. Nobody on Trump’s camp would vote for Kamala ever anyways, so if she pulled left she would get more voters, not lose them.

      The DNC is fine with losing, though, so she won’t.

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    Jesus, we kicked Biden out because he was supporting Israel. Is she really going full-swing into loosing support of the people?

    We need to demand that she steps down.

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      we kicked Biden out because he was supporting Israel

      Nah, the wealthy donors kicked him out because they lost confidence in him, ostensibly because of his health. They don’t respond to the needs and opinions of their subjects.

      Is she really going full-swing into loosing support of the people?

      All day, because your support doesn’t matter to the rulers and their paymasters.

      We need to demand that she steps down.

      Sure, but again your demands don’t matter to the rulers and their paymasters.

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      I’m going to avoid the low hanging fruit of you taking the credit for Biden for the sake of Palestine and try to appeal to your sense of reason. This war in Palestine,like so many others around the world, is NOT something you get to vote on. Isreal is a near century old institution fully backed by the U.S. government. The vested money that goes into the continuing strife in the middle East has corrupted EVERY political candidate that has come to the forefront of U.S. politics. You won’t find a candidate out there that will openly oppose Israel.

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          And he would’ve ignored them if it wasn’t for the terrible debate performance. It was really only the age thing, Kamala is going to run on the exact same policies. If you thought there was going to be a change on Gaza policy I don’t know what to tell you.

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      You didn’t KICK him out… He still likely would have won tbh. But Kamala is a better fit. People are excited for the first time

      And demand she steps down? You’re not asking her to step down, you’re seemingly trying to let Trump win… Because he will if she does.

      And if trump wins, the consequences will be dire… Worldwide… It will be a return to bigotry, anti-environment and he’s already given hints that he’ll try to extend his term to be permanent…

      With him on charge, we might as well give up on global warming and accept it… It’s REALLY bad.

      Based on everything I’ve seen, Kamala will likely fight for the people… Not for herself. There is so much more else going on, and despite this, I believe she’ll do an amazing job

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        Nah, I want someone who can actually beat Trump. Hilary lost because she was too far right. Harris will loose because she was too far right.

        We need someone who will actually meet the demands of the younger generation (West, Sanders, AOC, etc). Otherwise Trump will win.

        Learn from history.

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          People don’t see her as far right… because she’s really not conservative at all…

          At least imho.

          The problem with someone like AOC is that they’ll instantly brand her as too young

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    I feel as those most of the comments here are trying to push support away from Harris I.E republican fronts/bots.

    • nowhere does she condemn Palestine, ability to protest, freedom of speech.

    • she does condem violence, a terrorist organization (hamas) and willful damage.

    • nowhere does she actually support Israeli actions.

    This is actually how comments from politicans and the police should be acting - you can protest, but it doesn’t allow willfull damage, violence or racism. America has been in a cold civil war for soo long you assume everything is an attack on your ideals.

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    I support the right to peacefully protest

    She wants to change our profile picture or whatever empty performative gesturing fits her agenda, doesn’t she?

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    So much better than the other guy, though. Writing in a candidate will be fun for some people, but I’m choosing to vote for someone who 1) can win and 2) won’t strip away freedoms in the name of religion.

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      Fucking hope this site is in no way representative of the voting population, because Jesus Christ.

      That, or all the “I’m totally a progressive that suddenly learned about Gaza last week and refuse to vote for Biden because of it” astroturfing is shifting their gears to Harris.

      They were looking for a new unified attack vector, and then she went and said this and they realized they could just keep doing the same old tired shit.

      Reminder: if you give a single shit about Palestine or the people who live there, you will do everything you can to prevent Trump and down ballot Republicans from winning. At all costs.

      If you can’t see the forest for the trees, you’re gonna find out real quick what happens in Gaza when Trump wins. Assuming you actually give a shit about those people and aren’t just using them as political pawns to try to change the sentiment regarding Kamala Harris.

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      Democrats seem very eager to re-elect blue-flavored genocide. I’m very glad you feel so excited about her chances to win. I think the Palestinian children getting headshot by Israelis will be overjoyed to hear about the freedoms you will enjoy.

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          Correct our regime supports this genocide.

          Gaza residents will be exterminated but we don’t have to feed two party system.

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            What does it mean to feed the system? Participate in it? Are there reasonable alternatives?

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              Voting for either party provide the regime legitimacy.

              Voting 3p is a denying them legitimacy

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                Okay, so participating in the system is feeding it. I understand your point, but it feels like you’re completely dismissing the momentum our current system has. I don’t think slowing it down is a possibility right now, especially since the mechanisms in place specifically prevent extreme policy changes from one administration to the next–namely, our country’s 70+ years of hard-line support for Israel–so the next reasonable step to take is to steer it in a better direction.

                Unfortunately, the majority of people are already steering either right or left. Refusing to engage or trying to push this massive machine in a less popular direction is, for now, like screaming into the void. So, I push with the others, hoping to create breathing room until we can change the way we do things and allow for better political representation in our democracy.

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                  So, I push with the others

                  50% right, 50% left nothing is done.

                  I am breaking the tie. Clearly doing the two party circle jerk aint doing shit for anyone who works for money.

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        It’s a travesty, but after a cease fire is drafted and world news starts covering something else, we’re still stuck with whoever is president. I’ve never voted based on one single issue. There’s lots of stuff to consider.

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        There’s people in this thread saying “well then I’m gonna write in a socialist”

        This isn’t whataboutism, this is actual existential threat to this country and the stability of all the countries we send our military to. Kamala Harris’ comments on the anti-genocide protest are wholly unacceptable and present the overall message as Pro-HAMAS, which it distinctly isn’t, but we do still have to think about which piece of shit benefits most from writing in someone who cannot win in a first past the post election

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          The US hasn’t had democracy for at least 40 years. The owner class decide who we are allowed to elect (the money filter). The elected enact the policies that the owner class want.

          Here is a tweet from Bernie from today:

          Lina Khan, Chair of the FTC, pushed to get the non-compete agreement ban passed. Reid Hoffman is the Dem’s version of Peter Thiel. He paid Harris $7 million so she will fire Khan and reinstate non-compete agreements once elected.

          Results from a 2014 Princeton study that took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys over a 20 year span and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law.

          “The preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

          https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba

          Direct link to the study: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

          The corporate duopoly bought and paid for the government a long time ago. The only solution is a united front based along class lines (working class vs owner class). Everything else is a distraction.

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            40 years? my guy u are talking about a genocidal slave sate that was created in order to preserve slavery and commit more genocides a country where for much of its existence only white men with land could vote a country were when those blatant forms of discrimination became untenable did everything it could to ensure that only those people had any impact on politics. amerikkka was never a democracy