Ah, I think see what’s happened : because I’ve said (of those that would vote Harris but not Biden, per the article) “people are … easily fooled,” many people have assumed I’m pro Trump.
It’s faulty thinking, but very instructive all the same.
Do you think it’s possible to hold a position that is not pro trump, yet at the exact same time, not pro Harris ?
Idk. Maybe. I think Biden has done a great job if you look at his policies, and I would have hoped people were excited about them. I take your comment to say that people are fooled into having more enthusiasm for a candidate with the same policies just becase a different face has been put on them. But there can be other reasons for the enthusiasm. For example, maybe people believe she will do a better job since she is younger and more energetic. And those people
think a younger, more energetic candidate makes for a better President even while holding the same political views. If that gets people excited, fine. It may be from being fickle and fooled or may be from a realistic view of how leaders impact the group and how a younger leader could be better.
For the dems it does seem to be a buff. The media is certainly telling us it’s a huge buff : half of the posts here today are about that.
This unfortunately shows us that some people viewed voting for a convicted felon, fraudster and rapist and condemning America to being dismantled and sold for parts vs voting for the status quo, lead by a deteriorating man, as some kind of dilemma .
My own politics are way left of either, but I don’t think is controversial to shine a light on the superficial nature of the electorate.
Bear in mind, a lot of these people screech about fascism etc etc, but somehow saw it as a difficult choice. At least, that’s what the polls, via the media, are telling us.
I am mocking the idea which has been widely presented by US media and support by this sub, that the choice between a convicted felon, fraudster and rapist with fascist backers and the status quo, (albeit lead by a deteriorating man) was ever difficult.
I am also mocking the idea that the choice has been made easier by Harris.
That’s was the article was about if you’ve read it.
Do you, as a non US citizen like me, not find it interesting - even bemusing - that when faced with the current Republican Party and all that their government would bring, voters were - according the article - finding it difficult to vote for Biden because he was merely too old and infirm ?
I am also mocking the idea that the choice has been made easier by Harris.
It’s also like, not a choice, just straight up, right? Like the offer between, shit sandwich and shit sandwich with, I dunno, ham, or some other ostensibly good thing, that’s not really a choice, both because on the surface it sucks or whatever, and also because I’m gonna choose the one with ham. If I’m, by default, guaranteed to choose the one with ham every time, then that’s not really a choice, I was predestined to choose that. It’s no wonder that with this constant framing, the focus is always put on these nonexistent undecided voters, because they’re the only ones which can actually be presumed to be making a real choice here, they’re the only ones who “need” any convincing.
That’s because people are fickle and easily fooled.
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What was it about my post that invited this irrelevant question ?
The bold part.
Ah, I think see what’s happened : because I’ve said (of those that would vote Harris but not Biden, per the article) “people are … easily fooled,” many people have assumed I’m pro Trump.
It’s faulty thinking, but very instructive all the same.
Do you think it’s possible to hold a position that is not pro trump, yet at the exact same time, not pro Harris ?
Sorry who are you?
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Idk. Maybe. I think Biden has done a great job if you look at his policies, and I would have hoped people were excited about them. I take your comment to say that people are fooled into having more enthusiasm for a candidate with the same policies just becase a different face has been put on them. But there can be other reasons for the enthusiasm. For example, maybe people believe she will do a better job since she is younger and more energetic. And those people think a younger, more energetic candidate makes for a better President even while holding the same political views. If that gets people excited, fine. It may be from being fickle and fooled or may be from a realistic view of how leaders impact the group and how a younger leader could be better.
For the dems it does seem to be a buff. The media is certainly telling us it’s a huge buff : half of the posts here today are about that.
This unfortunately shows us that some people viewed voting for a convicted felon, fraudster and rapist and condemning America to being dismantled and sold for parts vs voting for the status quo, lead by a deteriorating man, as some kind of dilemma .
My own politics are way left of either, but I don’t think is controversial to shine a light on the superficial nature of the electorate.
Bear in mind, a lot of these people screech about fascism etc etc, but somehow saw it as a difficult choice. At least, that’s what the polls, via the media, are telling us.
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You can see where you’ve gone wrong, I hope ?
Clearly YOU can’t
Sorry who are you ? Another champion of binary thinking ?
Sorry who are you?
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I am mocking the idea which has been widely presented by US media and support by this sub, that the choice between a convicted felon, fraudster and rapist with fascist backers and the status quo, (albeit lead by a deteriorating man) was ever difficult.
I am also mocking the idea that the choice has been made easier by Harris.
That’s was the article was about if you’ve read it.
Do you, as a non US citizen like me, not find it interesting - even bemusing - that when faced with the current Republican Party and all that their government would bring, voters were - according the article - finding it difficult to vote for Biden because he was merely too old and infirm ?
It’s also like, not a choice, just straight up, right? Like the offer between, shit sandwich and shit sandwich with, I dunno, ham, or some other ostensibly good thing, that’s not really a choice, both because on the surface it sucks or whatever, and also because I’m gonna choose the one with ham. If I’m, by default, guaranteed to choose the one with ham every time, then that’s not really a choice, I was predestined to choose that. It’s no wonder that with this constant framing, the focus is always put on these nonexistent undecided voters, because they’re the only ones which can actually be presumed to be making a real choice here, they’re the only ones who “need” any convincing.
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