It’s not about defeating the us army lmao. It’s about striking and civil disobedience, even when illegal. That is the basic strategy to win concessions. On a long term basis, there needs to be more pressure on Democrats to maintain standards instead of just electing garbage candidates.
That’s not what I was talking about. I think all of that is great. It won’t be enough if Trump ends democracy though, which he just publicly promised to do yesterday, in case you missed the news.
Why would it not be enough? Do you think the purpose of striking is to convince more people to vote? No, it’s to force concessions directly.
That’s why building up dual power via leftist organizing is the key through-line of leftist thought, rather than playing into the game set up by the Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie.
Because the fascists will start shooting people who strike. And we just don’t have what it takes to win that war. We will lose, and the world will be worse because of it.
Because the fascists will start shooting people who strike.
This has historically been true under both the Democrats and Republicans, because Capitalists control both of those parties. Far-right violence has increased under Biden. The fact of the matter is that Capitalism and by extension Imperialism are in constant decay. Fascism is a violent attempt to “turn the clock back” to the “good old days” via nationalism, and class collaborationism between the Bourgeoisie and Petitie Bourgeoisie, think Tesla and Small Business Owner techbros.
Fascism is not present because Trump is present, a liberal beating a fascist electorally will not stop fascist violencd, but increase it. Leftists must organize.
And we just don’t have what it takes to win that war.
We absolutely do have what it takes. The faster liberals side with leftists and take strong stances against fascism, rather than cast approval of fascist enablers, the better it will be.
We will lose, and the world will be worse because of it.
Not entirely sure the world would be worse off if the US collapsed. The US is the largest Empire in the world, billions of people would be celebrating through the streets.
Do you seriously think that fascist violence would be limited to just nutjobs acting outside the law in a fascist regime. That ain’t how this works. There’s a reason I brought up the US army. It wouldn’t be the first time they were brought in to end strikes. The simple fact of the matter is that the difference in military power between the army and socialists has only gotten more and more cartoonishly unbalanced as time has gone on though.
Liberals will not side with us here in the US. You would know that if you ever talked to any. They’ll fight the fascists on their own, and honestly I think they’ll probably win if it comes down to it, but they probably won’t even bother to use us as allies to abandon. We’re not even important enough in the US for even that level of indignity.
If the US could just peacefully implode in a time where the world wasn’t facing a massive wave of authoritarianism and an impending global warming crisis it would be an objectively good thing. We don’t live in that world though. The consequence of a US civil war right now would be billions dying in the streets, not celebrating.
Do you seriously think that fascist violence would be limited to just nutjobs acting outside the law in a fascist regime. That ain’t how this works. There’s a reason I brought up the US army. It wouldn’t be the first time they were brought in to end strikes. The simple fact of the matter is that the difference in military power between the army and socialists has only gotten more and more cartoonishly unbalanced as time has gone on though.
You don’t really understand what revolutionary theory is if you think people are advocating random fights with the military.
Liberals will not side with us here in the US. You would know that if you ever talked to any. They’ll fight the fascists on their own, and honestly I think they’ll probably win if it comes down to it, but they probably won’t even bother to use us as allies to abandon. We’re not even important enough in the US for even that level of indignity.
Liberals side with fascists, they don’t fight them.
If the US could just peacefully implode in a time where the world wasn’t facing a massive wave of authoritarianism and an impending global warming crisis it would be an objectively good thing. We don’t live in that world though. The consequence of a US civil war right now would be billions dying in the streets, not celebrating.
The US is at the top of that authoritarian list. The US isn’t fighting any fight against authoritarianism, but for it.
You don’t have a democracy that can be ended. You haven’t had one from the beginning of your republic. America is an aristocracy and anyone deluded enough to believe that it ever had anything approximating a democracy simply hasn’t learnt anything.
It’s not about defeating the us army lmao. It’s about striking and civil disobedience, even when illegal. That is the basic strategy to win concessions. On a long term basis, there needs to be more pressure on Democrats to maintain standards instead of just electing garbage candidates.
That’s not what I was talking about. I think all of that is great. It won’t be enough if Trump ends democracy though, which he just publicly promised to do yesterday, in case you missed the news.
Why would it not be enough? Do you think the purpose of striking is to convince more people to vote? No, it’s to force concessions directly.
That’s why building up dual power via leftist organizing is the key through-line of leftist thought, rather than playing into the game set up by the Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie.
Because the fascists will start shooting people who strike. And we just don’t have what it takes to win that war. We will lose, and the world will be worse because of it.
This has historically been true under both the Democrats and Republicans, because Capitalists control both of those parties. Far-right violence has increased under Biden. The fact of the matter is that Capitalism and by extension Imperialism are in constant decay. Fascism is a violent attempt to “turn the clock back” to the “good old days” via nationalism, and class collaborationism between the Bourgeoisie and Petitie Bourgeoisie, think Tesla and Small Business Owner techbros.
Fascism is not present because Trump is present, a liberal beating a fascist electorally will not stop fascist violencd, but increase it. Leftists must organize.
We absolutely do have what it takes. The faster liberals side with leftists and take strong stances against fascism, rather than cast approval of fascist enablers, the better it will be.
Not entirely sure the world would be worse off if the US collapsed. The US is the largest Empire in the world, billions of people would be celebrating through the streets.
Do you seriously think that fascist violence would be limited to just nutjobs acting outside the law in a fascist regime. That ain’t how this works. There’s a reason I brought up the US army. It wouldn’t be the first time they were brought in to end strikes. The simple fact of the matter is that the difference in military power between the army and socialists has only gotten more and more cartoonishly unbalanced as time has gone on though.
Liberals will not side with us here in the US. You would know that if you ever talked to any. They’ll fight the fascists on their own, and honestly I think they’ll probably win if it comes down to it, but they probably won’t even bother to use us as allies to abandon. We’re not even important enough in the US for even that level of indignity.
If the US could just peacefully implode in a time where the world wasn’t facing a massive wave of authoritarianism and an impending global warming crisis it would be an objectively good thing. We don’t live in that world though. The consequence of a US civil war right now would be billions dying in the streets, not celebrating.
You don’t really understand what revolutionary theory is if you think people are advocating random fights with the military.
Liberals side with fascists, they don’t fight them.
The US is at the top of that authoritarian list. The US isn’t fighting any fight against authoritarianism, but for it.
You don’t have a democracy that can be ended. You haven’t had one from the beginning of your republic. America is an aristocracy and anyone deluded enough to believe that it ever had anything approximating a democracy simply hasn’t learnt anything.