• ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    what it entails are the borders freezing and everyone getting bored of sending 17 year olds through minefields

    east ukraine will never be part of ukraine again, do you really think there is a going back now over a million people have died?

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      1 year ago

      That is my point, there is no going back. Even if Ukraine before this was on shaky ground as a nation they are now determined to fight on and on and on. russia also has no credibility as show today, and this has been stated many times by Ukraine that any treaty with russia is worth less then the paper it is printed on.

      So I ask again, how does russia get anyone to show up and sign anything? How do they force peace?

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          1 year ago

          That at least is an answer, and while I don’t think it will happen (the collective west is doing to well from this) I do appreciate an honest attempt.

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            Most of the collective west is currently undergoing a thinly veiled reccession and electing more and more unstable forms of government, like the neo-nazi gov of italy, the shitshow that is UK politics (which is doing worse economically than russia, a country at war) and the clown parade that is the american govs complete inability to do anything for its own people.

            There is already talk of pulling aid from Ukraine in many EU states like Austria and the US is starting to pivot towards Taiwan and has been calling this recent push ‘Ukraines last chance’, which they are admitting is failing.

            The paymasters are calling time.