• xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    Okay first things first, I never said Russia was controlled by its enemies, second:

    This isn’t about my views on geopolitics, it’s about ohs you need to stop defending Nazis. Do that and we can have a wide ranging conversation about any number of topics.

    But first, stop defending Nazis!

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      1 year ago

      I never defended Nazis, and you have yet to make an argument that doesn’t bog down to “I hate that /u/barsoap is right”. It’s you who’s trivialising the term.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not trivializing anything.

        You are saying that azov battalion using the wolfsangel is not a nazi symbol.

        It’s a defense of Nazis because you’re providing cover for the spread of their ideology. You need to stop defending Nazis.

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          1 year ago

          Ok you’ve got me. Now show me where Azov is spreading Nazi ideology. Post-2015. I’m waiting.

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              1 year ago

              It’s not a Nazi symbol. Are Motorhead fans Nazis because they wear Iron Crosses?

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                1 year ago

                What’s not a Nazi symbol, the wolfsangel (which you agreed was a Nazi symbol in the context of a right wing militia just a few days ago) or the black sun (whose removal you claimed was semiotic denazification enough)?

                Instead of making me dredge up terrible things you’ve said, why not just stop defending Nazis?

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                  Azov isn’t a Nazi org any more, thus the Wolfsangel is fine. Because there was more than semiotic denazification. You also can’t be publicly/actively racist or homophobic and whatever inside Azov Ukraine really cracked down on associated politics as a whole. As said: If Azov was still a Nazi org, why did so many Nazis leave?

                  And are you seriously asking whether the black sun is a Nazi symbol. The SS used it in an esoteric context, the only other use I’m aware of is use esotericists using it as a specific symbol of evil, “a nightmare that feels like paradise while you’re asleep”, but that’s an obscure corner of an obscure corner. Also, based as fuck.