• MudMan@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    I genuinely have nothing new to add to this conversation. All my previous points stand and they either address those objections already or the caveats are self-evident.

    If anything I’ll say that seeing the defensiveness come together in real time is really helping me understand many recurring narratives happening around this space. I suggest we call this process “the GIMP effect”.

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      3 months ago

      There’s only one person getting defensive in this conversation and it’s the same one who is attempting to end it with some weird exit line takedown. You’re not showing much faith in your original position by abandoning it so quickly.

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        3 months ago

        That’s a weird take, man. By that metric no online conversation can ever end.

        I’ve made my point, I’ve said my piece. I’m not super emotionally invested on F-Droid’s success, either. This seems like a bad move in a few different ways, and it’s one that interferes with how I use the platform for the reasons I’ve stated. You don’t want that to be the case, I get that, but I don’t need your permission to feel that what’s being proposed here is going to mess with how I use it.

        I also don’t need your permission to make the case that a store of monetized apps is a store of monetized apps and is competing with huge, polished, integrated alternatives in a way that F-Droid currently doesn’t. You’re mostly arguing with the kind of just-use-GIMP wishful thinking where it’s feasible for people to step out of their comfort zone or make morality-driven consumption choices en masse. I don’t feel I need to argue with you about it, though. It’s gonna go the way it’s going to go. The part that bums me out the most, as I said, is as an illustration for how self-reinforcing the niche position of FOSS can be sometimes. Otherwise, you do you.

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          3 months ago

          By that metric no online conversation can ever end.

          Conversations can end, sure. Attempting to end them abruptly by suggesting the person you’re having the conversation with “fundamentally misunderstands” the topic without ever actually explaining how, or by claiming they are “defensive”, is certainly not the behaviour I would expect from someone who claims to not be “super emotionally invested” in the topic. Your last few replies have sounded pretty emotional to me.