• sunbeam60@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    Man, these days you know a hexbear without even looking at the user.

    I mean this is complete and baloney! You are also using the comparison to establish some kind of “evil slavers vs democracy” narrative that wasn’t in place at all in China during the warlord era. They were all equally horrid.

    This is, at best, akin to a war between all states in the US after the Boston Tea Party and a communist state, let’s just pick Arizona, slowly winning the wars and forcing the remaining faction onto Hawaii. Then the socialist party forced anyone who could read, more or less, to work themselves to death in a field in the name of communism. Glory to the people!!!

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        1 year ago

        I agree my characterisation is far off the mark. But the poster I responded to wasn’t even in the same galaxy, so I still considered it an improvement.

        Also, I’m not Jesus Christ 🤪

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            They did not say that they don’t know shit about the topic, not even close. They simply said their characterization is far off the marks. That means that their understanding of the conflict is far from perfect, but they absolutely do know shit about it.

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              1 year ago

              They didn’t say they were wrong

              They just said they were far off the mark

              That means their understanding is far from perfect

              They absolutely do know their shit

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                  1 year ago

                  far off the mark

                  Can it be time for you to shut up yet?

                  To think that you saw me make fun of you for the game of telephone you played with yourself and decided to take the final translation and defend yourself with it. Way to miss the fucking point. “Far from the mark” was already cope by someone who was simply fucking wrong about what they said.

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                    I am not going to shut up. I am not going to shut up at anyone’s request. I also believe that their comment had a certain degree of truth to it.

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      1 year ago

      So in your hypothetical analog, a completely made up, random, nonexistent party that never had any relevancy during that time period takes over America, and somehow you know more than OP and that proves china bad

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      1 year ago

      I agree. People should take how the Chinese government and the US government treat their people into consideration.

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        1 year ago

        So are we gonna talk about how USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world? Are we going to talk about income equality in USA vs China? Are we going to talk about the Concentration camps for refugee children on the USA border? (If you are going to bring up Xinjiang I’m going to need some photographic evidence beyond vibes and zenz doing bad statistical analysis)

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              The life expectancy of China in 2021 was 77.13 - not that much higher than the US.

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                Yes but the USA has a PPP GDP PC of 76400 G–K$ and China has 21500 G–K$. How can you in good faith compare those?

                (Life expectancy for Mexico, marginally richer per capita than China is 70. Life expectancy for the Philippines (poorer pc than China) is 69.)

                The fact that China is in the same ballpark should be evidence enough that their policies are more people-orientated. The fact that they’re ahead despite the huge disadvantage should be a huge point of shame for the USA, not something to be dismissed with saying the gap is small.