"And it is a nightmare. It's a nightmare. And you're going to stop inflation, but we're going to have a crash, and we're going to have a crash like a 1929 crash if she gets in."
He’s an idiot but the line going up before a crash is what happens, right? Like the housing market - my shithole house bought for under $40k in the 90s was allegedly worth $300k in the housing bubble, then it crashed. So now someone is trying to sell it for more than half a million (improved) and, as a layperson that makes me expect a crash.
But not like he could prevent it, WTF? Possibly a real democratic agenda could blunt the effects though, a New Deal again. All the right would do is make it worse.
Sometimes the line goes up and crashes. Sometimes the line goes up and keeps going up. Eventually, it has to hit some kind of limit on economic.
Huge swings are bad. Going up sharply in a short time period often comes with a devastating crash. Capitalism could try to save itself by aiming for small but consistent returns every year. It’d still eventually hit limits of growth, but it wouldn’t necessarily Wild E Coyote itself into a wall, either. It’s not capable of doing that, though, because the sugar rush of high returns is too good to pass up in the short term. The liberal economists calling for that sort of thing are constantly drowned out, which is why liberal economics ultimately won’t save us.
He’s a stopped clock on this one (mostly because it’s a really safe bet to make; market crashes, he gloats, market doesn’t crash in the near future, everyone forgets he said it).
There is a downturn of some sort coming when the AI bubble bursts (it will, and fairly soon), it’s just a question of how severe and how contained it will be.
I’m curious, what makes you so confident on Nvidia? I’m not expecting them to crash and die or anything, but I can’t see them ever regaining their current (extremely over inflated) stock price.
I wasn’t clear - when i say NVidia will correct I mean it will pop back down - the current valuation is stupidly high. They won’t die, but people will act like the sky is falling the moment NVidia stock finally corrects back down. What that will trigger is anybody’s guess.
Sorry, total misunderstanding on my part. I completely forgot that that’s what “correct” means in this context.
To your point, the demand for compute infrastructure is absurdly high right now, because AI has absurd compute needs, so everything attached to that space suffers. The small, dedicated providers - mostly guys like Riot and Northern Data who pivoted from crypto - probably collapse entirely. Microsoft takes a hit, as does anyone in the GPU space like Intel and AMD. Intel are already in rough shape so investor confidence isn’t high. That said, none of those companies will suffer lasting damage, they all have strong fundamentals. Apple and Amazon may suffer minor splash damage. Meta probably also takes a hit thanks to their investments in AI, as does Google. Both of those could be interesting. Google is in a very dangerous place right now for investors with the antitrust loss. They can probably ride it out on appeals until they get a government that will agree to dismiss the ruling, like Microsoft has repeatedly done in the past, but with the possibility of 8 years of Harris coming up they might not be so lucky (God, I hope). AI hype collapsing might amplify existing concerns. Google is the kind of company that’s so big and entrenched it’s hard to see anything seriously spooking investors, but this combination might do it. Meta has soared over the last year, and is certainly overvalued right now. Again, they’re an entrenched tech giant who can normally ride out anything, but Zuck has been making some wild plays lately, like his massive failed metaverse investment (Good job naming the company after that so no one can forget). Their big AI push blowing up as well would be a second strike. That said, I doubt two strikes is enough to spook anyone who is already OK with a company whose CEO basically cannot be removed. Like, that risk is priced in.
He’s an idiot but the line going up before a crash is what happens, right? Like the housing market - my shithole house bought for under $40k in the 90s was allegedly worth $300k in the housing bubble, then it crashed. So now someone is trying to sell it for more than half a million (improved) and, as a layperson that makes me expect a crash.
But not like he could prevent it, WTF? Possibly a real democratic agenda could blunt the effects though, a New Deal again. All the right would do is make it worse.
Insofar as the line generally goes up and occasionally crashes, yes.
Sometimes the line goes up and crashes. Sometimes the line goes up and keeps going up. Eventually, it has to hit some kind of limit on economic.
Huge swings are bad. Going up sharply in a short time period often comes with a devastating crash. Capitalism could try to save itself by aiming for small but consistent returns every year. It’d still eventually hit limits of growth, but it wouldn’t necessarily Wild E Coyote itself into a wall, either. It’s not capable of doing that, though, because the sugar rush of high returns is too good to pass up in the short term. The liberal economists calling for that sort of thing are constantly drowned out, which is why liberal economics ultimately won’t save us.
He’s a stopped clock on this one (mostly because it’s a really safe bet to make; market crashes, he gloats, market doesn’t crash in the near future, everyone forgets he said it).
There is a downturn of some sort coming when the AI bubble bursts (it will, and fairly soon), it’s just a question of how severe and how contained it will be.
NVidia will correct right away, but what corrects after that?
I’m curious, what makes you so confident on Nvidia? I’m not expecting them to crash and die or anything, but I can’t see them ever regaining their current (extremely over inflated) stock price.
I wasn’t clear - when i say NVidia will correct I mean it will pop back down - the current valuation is stupidly high. They won’t die, but people will act like the sky is falling the moment NVidia stock finally corrects back down. What that will trigger is anybody’s guess.
Sorry, total misunderstanding on my part. I completely forgot that that’s what “correct” means in this context.
To your point, the demand for compute infrastructure is absurdly high right now, because AI has absurd compute needs, so everything attached to that space suffers. The small, dedicated providers - mostly guys like Riot and Northern Data who pivoted from crypto - probably collapse entirely. Microsoft takes a hit, as does anyone in the GPU space like Intel and AMD. Intel are already in rough shape so investor confidence isn’t high. That said, none of those companies will suffer lasting damage, they all have strong fundamentals. Apple and Amazon may suffer minor splash damage. Meta probably also takes a hit thanks to their investments in AI, as does Google. Both of those could be interesting. Google is in a very dangerous place right now for investors with the antitrust loss. They can probably ride it out on appeals until they get a government that will agree to dismiss the ruling, like Microsoft has repeatedly done in the past, but with the possibility of 8 years of Harris coming up they might not be so lucky (God, I hope). AI hype collapsing might amplify existing concerns. Google is the kind of company that’s so big and entrenched it’s hard to see anything seriously spooking investors, but this combination might do it. Meta has soared over the last year, and is certainly overvalued right now. Again, they’re an entrenched tech giant who can normally ride out anything, but Zuck has been making some wild plays lately, like his massive failed metaverse investment (Good job naming the company after that so no one can forget). Their big AI push blowing up as well would be a second strike. That said, I doubt two strikes is enough to spook anyone who is already OK with a company whose CEO basically cannot be removed. Like, that risk is priced in.