I may be blackpilled but there isn’t. Russians are brainwashed by the state in my eyes. If you are a Russian that doesn’t believe the propaganda, you are not Russian, at least what it means now.
Many downdoots so extra clarification; I am first in line to die if Russians attack. I have no sympathy for anyone that directly or indirectly supports the constant harassment on my country’s borders, jamming and going into our airspace, overwhelming our customs and posting propaganda in our forums. That is not including the terrorism in Ukraine. That original comment reads to me “It’s okay to be a gay nazi”. That is all.
The problem is, nazi is a political ideology, but Russian is a nationality and ethnicity. I agree with your point about gay nazis, but would you say the same thing about gay germans?
There’s a big difference between hating what Russia, and by the extension, the Russian people, are doing, and hating every single Russian individually. It’s like hating the patriarchy, but not hating every single individual man.
Yes, collectively it’s their fault, but you can’t hold Yevgeni the farmer from Sertov, whose son got drafted against his will, personally responsible for Russian genocide in Ukraine.
You can definitely blame Baris from Moscow, who drives around with a “3 weeks to Berlin” bumper sticker and who has a bronze bust of Putin in his bedroom.
You are right, but they use this same argument to muddy the water time snd time again. That is why I don’t give it to them, it might make me look bad, but I can’t pretend. I don’t view a Russian that has progressive views as “Russian”.
Make it the other way around and see the progressives as Russians and the others as not Russians. The progressives will thank you and the others will be annoyed. Win win
Russian is a music, a food, a sense of style, a story. Russian is culture not the current tyrany.
Why let the fascists steal that from the people? I understand your sentiment but I’ll be honest it enrages me.
It’s like a person saying that any black that doesn’t join a gang isn’t really black. They can’t see a non-violent black as a member off-that race. You ignore the problem in favor of factionalism. Black people are not inherently violent, it’s an economic and political situation. Apply the same logic to Russians. See the obvious reasons for the current situations. It’s not the people, it’s their tyrant. A tyrant they cannot choose.
Black does not mean the worst of their people, Russian does not mean the worst of theirs. It’s a signifier of culture, and ethnic origin. That is all
Russia is the only existential threat my country has. When you say you are “Russian”, I can’t seperate it if you mean nationality or ethnic background. If you lived in America, would you say you are “German” or “American”? Why not say “Ethnic german” or “German origin”. There are very few cases where someone has said they are “From russia” living here that didn’t believe kremlin. If the opposite is true, the seperation is instantly transmitted after, that they don’t trust Kremlin. Maybe I’m just retarded and can’t see the nuance here.
nah i think it’s just that this content fits better in ncd or something, if you don’t care about sorting then why do communities exist on this platform?
Right, because I’m OK with PoLiTiCaL content on 196 means “I don’t care about sorting.” Holy shit are some people fragile – do you see a rule here saying “no politics”? Or is this maybe just you being whiny?
I hate the russians with passion, but I don’t think this sub is the place for geopolitics. We already know Russia wants to annihilate the LGBT+.
I’m straight male, but I still follow the stuff here since I like it and don’t want you dead…
There’s a difference between hating Russians and hating Russia. Please don’t hate me. I’m just a guy, like you.
I may be blackpilled but there isn’t. Russians are brainwashed by the state in my eyes. If you are a Russian that doesn’t believe the propaganda, you are not Russian, at least what it means now.
Did you just call me “one of the good ones”?
Get a grip, man. Stop turning an entire nationality into a monolith.
Many downdoots so extra clarification; I am first in line to die if Russians attack. I have no sympathy for anyone that directly or indirectly supports the constant harassment on my country’s borders, jamming and going into our airspace, overwhelming our customs and posting propaganda in our forums. That is not including the terrorism in Ukraine. That original comment reads to me “It’s okay to be a gay nazi”. That is all.
The problem is, nazi is a political ideology, but Russian is a nationality and ethnicity. I agree with your point about gay nazis, but would you say the same thing about gay germans?
They really are shitting the bed everywhere aren’t they. Ukraine, Africa, GPS jamming in europe, something with Japan etc. etc.
There’s a big difference between hating what Russia, and by the extension, the Russian people, are doing, and hating every single Russian individually. It’s like hating the patriarchy, but not hating every single individual man.
Yes, collectively it’s their fault, but you can’t hold Yevgeni the farmer from Sertov, whose son got drafted against his will, personally responsible for Russian genocide in Ukraine.
You can definitely blame Baris from Moscow, who drives around with a “3 weeks to Berlin” bumper sticker and who has a bronze bust of Putin in his bedroom.
You are right, but they use this same argument to muddy the water time snd time again. That is why I don’t give it to them, it might make me look bad, but I can’t pretend. I don’t view a Russian that has progressive views as “Russian”.
“I only accept someone’s nationality if they fit the stereotype”
ok lmao
Make it the other way around and see the progressives as Russians and the others as not Russians. The progressives will thank you and the others will be annoyed. Win win
Russian is a music, a food, a sense of style, a story. Russian is culture not the current tyrany.
Why let the fascists steal that from the people? I understand your sentiment but I’ll be honest it enrages me.
It’s like a person saying that any black that doesn’t join a gang isn’t really black. They can’t see a non-violent black as a member off-that race. You ignore the problem in favor of factionalism. Black people are not inherently violent, it’s an economic and political situation. Apply the same logic to Russians. See the obvious reasons for the current situations. It’s not the people, it’s their tyrant. A tyrant they cannot choose.
Black does not mean the worst of their people, Russian does not mean the worst of theirs. It’s a signifier of culture, and ethnic origin. That is all
That sounds like a no true Scotsman argument.
Russia is the only existential threat my country has. When you say you are “Russian”, I can’t seperate it if you mean nationality or ethnic background. If you lived in America, would you say you are “German” or “American”? Why not say “Ethnic german” or “German origin”. There are very few cases where someone has said they are “From russia” living here that didn’t believe kremlin. If the opposite is true, the seperation is instantly transmitted after, that they don’t trust Kremlin. Maybe I’m just retarded and can’t see the nuance here.
If you’re at war I reckon nuance must not the highest priority. I very much doubt you are retarded.
Stay safe.
i wonder if US americans get the same reaction out of you
Some dude saluting a flag when the brainwash song is playing is looking and this and thinks: these damn brainwashed russians are so dumb
so all US citizens are terrorist war criminals?
Funny how pretty much no place is ever the one for PoLiTiCs.
Don’t worry, being exposed to some eeeevil nasty politics won’t kill you.
nah i think it’s just that this content fits better in ncd or something, if you don’t care about sorting then why do communities exist on this platform?
Right, because I’m OK with PoLiTiCaL content on 196 means “I don’t care about sorting.” Holy shit are some people fragile – do you see a rule here saying “no politics”? Or is this maybe just you being whiny?
did you read what I said
This may come as a surprise but people can read your shit and still disagree
196 has been political since its inception