• Steve@communick.news
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    2 months ago

    I think you’re looking at my argument too specifically.

    It applies the same to climate change, and people buying cheep junkfood instead of more expensive healthy options.

    Blameing people for doing what’s better for them in the moment, instead of what’s immediately difficult but ultimately better for everyone, is always wrong.

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      2 months ago

      Personally, I would say its not something that applies to those things in the same way. It isn’t illegal to have a hight carbon footprint or eat junk food but it is illegal to employ undocumented workers. The problem is, they choose to employ non documented workers because they can force them to accept appalling and unlawful work conditions as well as massively underpaying them for the value of their work.

      If always then it would apply to someone who found robbing and killing you better for them in the moment. The harder thing would be for them to get a job and earn that money.

      Would blaming somone for robbing and killing you be wrong?

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        2 months ago

        I wouldn’t blame them for robbing me. That makes sense in a world where they aren’t mentally stable enough to keep a job. If they asked nicely I’d have just given them the money. Their being an asshole about it isn’t enough reason to let them starve.

        I also wouldn’t blame them for killing me, because I’d be dead. I wouldn’t be able to blame them.

        Legality has nothing to do with right and wrong, or hypocracy and consistancy anyway.

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          2 months ago

          I mean, I made a point not to use legality as a moral argument but you went ahead and said that anyway…

          Sorry but it wasn’t someone starving or mentally ill. Its anyone who just feels like robbing you because its “whats better for them in the moment” per the below:

          Blameing people for doing what’s better for them in the moment, instead of what’s immediately difficult but ultimately better for everyone, is always wrong.

          Its not like the people hiring undocumented people are doing so because they’re starving or mentally ill either. So, its a bizzare caveat to throw in, out of no where.

          I mean, if you’re going to claim you wouldn’t blame somone for robbing you when they could have just asked you, as you even say yourself, in order to not have to admit that people are actually culpable for their own actions then I don’t know what to say to that.