• tamal3@lemmy.world
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    Cedar waxwings get drink on fermented mulberries and roll around on the ground.

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    How can jaguars consume ayahuasca if it is a beverage containing various ingredients that work together to be potent? What do they actually consume?

    Ayahuasca is a hallucinogen commonly made by the prolonged decoction of the stems of the Banisteriopsis caapi vine and the leaves of the Psychotria viridis shrub, although hundreds of species are used in addition or substitution (See “Preparation” below). P. viridis contains N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT), a highly psychedelic substance. Although orally inactive, B. caapi is rich with harmala alkaloids, such as harmine, harmaline and tetrahydroharmine (THH), which can act as monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOi). This halts the liver and gastrointestinal metabolism of DMT, allowing it to reach the systemic circulation and the brain, where it activates 5-HT1A/2A/2C receptors in frontal and paralimbic areas.

    Do they consume Psychotria viridis leaves and does the DMT work this way?

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    Jaguars actually eat the leaves of b. capii, which acts as a MAOI in the Ayahuasca brew.

    While there is some discussion that the harmala alkaloids in b. capii might also be slightly psychoactive in high doses, the actual main compound in Ayahuasca is DMT, which is certainly very psychoactive, but not bioavailable when consumed orally without a MAOI. Unless the jaguars have figured out how to combine the two and/or brew ayahuasca, I strongly doubt that’s their intention and that they’d get comparable effects.

    I think the idea stems from the BBC show Weird Nature showing a jaguar eating yage leaves in episode 6, “Peculiar Potions”.

    I’m not really sold on how well that content was researched.

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      B. caapi is called ayahuasca, as well as being an ingredient in the brew with the same name, so the image is not technically wrong.

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        The mental images of the consequences of running into, and then having to fight, a jaguar who’s high on ayahuasca is both hilarious and terrifying.

        „Bro, chill out! The strawberry fractals are a mere figment of your imagination and can’t hurt you.“

        „CHRAOW! CHRAOWOW!! Satayskewers!“

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        Sure. In my opinion, however, the overall context of the image does imply the jaguar enjoys similar effects to those clearly requiring the presence of DMT, as that is what is most people commonly associate with ayahuasca.

        It’s a bit of a “look at all those animals getting high, this jaguar is even talking to machine elves in the 19th dimension” kinda thing, where - if I remember correctly - they actually consume the leaves for digestive purposes.

        Again, the leaves do have an effect, e. g. they apparently act as an SSRI (that’s how common antidepressants work) and we can’t be absolutely sure about their effect on cats (catnip certainly has some effect on cats we don’t readily enjoy), so I can’t dismiss the notion of jaguars seeking them out for that reason as well.

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      Came here for this, I was looking forward to having a Jaguar shaman for my aya ceremony but I guess that’s off now

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    What about the birds that get drunk off of fermented cherries and smash into a stuff? We need to do something about these FWIs or nobody will be safe.

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    I am not sure if I am scared of a high jaguar or want to pet it. Maybe both?

    Jaguar to his buddy: “Dude, I was so baked I let a hairless monkey pet me. I got the munchies though, so I ate him.”

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    You know that mountain what where Moses did the thing with the burning bush? Hallucinogenic mushrooms.

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      I was going to recommend the movie this is from, “Animals are Beautiful People”! It’s an older Disney produced documentary from the 70s I think. They put a comedic twist on the narraration and add plenty of cartoon sound affects throughout the film