• orcrist@lemm.ee
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    It’s interesting how people try to redefine the word joke. If there’s nothing funny about it, it’s not a joke. So maybe they mean that they were trolling just for fun, which is not the same thing.

    The second point is that if they say something horrible and then you call them an asshole and then they complain that you’ve gotten too sensitive, which is a very common chain of events, it actually shows that they’ve gotten too sensitive. If you’re not supposed to care about what they said, why should they care about what you said? … But of course actually they don’t care about what you said, and they’re just grandstanding. But even if we accept their internal logic just for the sake of argument, it still makes them giant assholes.

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      If there’s nothing funny about it, it’s not a joke

      This doesn’t excuse these people, but this is a bad way to define a joke. Funny is a subjective thing, a matter of taste, there is no objective “funny” to measure against to see if they qualify.

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        A lot of language is subjective, and jokes are notoriously subjective. They translate horribly across cultures and languages.

        If you have a different definition in mind, I’m all ears.

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    I recently watched a short film, Place des fêtes (spoilers)

    ::: Place des fêtes

    The scene in the end, a group of friends One guy steals a sad guy’s guitar,

    Another guy tells him “He’s just kidding” as he’s making chase

    A third guy stabs him in the belly

    :::

    Jokes can hurt. Sometimes the joke is malicious. Sometimes the joke hurts a lot -

    :::

    he had to get an ambulance

    :::

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    Oh I’m sooooo sorrry if my abject cruelty offended your sensibilities and desire to be treated as a human being.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    If I say some fucked up shit as a joke, it’s only because I failed to see how it was fucked up. Or I’m being sarcastic/facetious. If the former, and it’s brought to my attention, I’ll apologize and not repeat it. If the latter… 🤷🏻‍♂️

    However, I once repeated a joke told to me by my transfem sister that she learned in her trans support group and was called a transphobe on Reddit. Sometimes shit doesn’t matter, they just wanna be angry.

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      Lots of jokes can be understood in different ways. On the internet nobody can tell if you are sincere, while a trans person at a trans support group definitely is. If I repeat an alt right talking point to my buddy, he knows I’m being sarcastic and I’m making fun of them. But you can’t tell if I’m alt right or not. Kinda sad you actually have to explain this.

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      Yeah the sort of jokes from trans support groups often wind into the “this is probably not the sort of joke I’m comfortable hearing a random cis person tell”. Lots of jokes about dark aspects of our lives

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    The end stage of this is Groypers screaming the N-word at large public events, then filming reaction videos of the results.

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    If a comment is funny to the person giving it and offensive to the target it’s not a joke, it’s just bigotry.