Article by Advocate about another aging rock star, in this case Alice Cooper, being an intolerable bigot who lost touch with a world that is progressing beyond his limited imagination
Article by Advocate about another aging rock star, in this case Alice Cooper, being an intolerable bigot who lost touch with a world that is progressing beyond his limited imagination
You’re falling into the trap of people who interpret any criticism as “outrage,” as if those of us who correctly identify harmful bigotry are somehow unhinged and in a constant state of outrage. The use of such terminology (“outrage, virtue signaling, echo chamber” et al) is used to deflect attention from the real issue and make it seem like those of us who are (again, accurately) pointing out that these blatantly bigoted beliefs are inexcusable are the real problem – “both sides bad.” Whether this is intentional on your part or not, I would urge you to do better.
If you really believe what you’re saying, then yes, you are. I think deep down inside you know that Alice Cooper is a raging piece of shit. Like I said, it fits right in with his entire bigoted worldview.
I’m just saying you have more important battles to fight. Go fight them. Don’t waste your time on inconsequential celebrity gossip about old farts who aren’t woke enough.
It’s a fallacy to think that just because I’m wasting time on Lemmy on a Sunday morning that I’m not doing anything meaningful. I literally work for a charitable non-profit that does praxis, and I often meet with local officials to try to make my community a better place.
We are not the people you see in our comments. Personally, I find it cathartic to dunk on bigots, so I will continue to do so, but thanks for the advice?
Of course you are doing more meaningful things when you’re not wasting your time online. I am too.
I just think this “cathartic dunking on bigots” might be somewhat counterproductive. It’s possible for people to be badly informed, ignorant, or just dumb, without being bigots and worthy of being labelled enemies of some cause.
You’re not going to convince anyone by immediately writing off everyone you disagree with even slightly as being ignorant pricks. And that’s of course fine if you’re just here for your bowel movements, but as far as I can see it’s not helping the cause at all.
Of course it stems from ignorance! Most bigotry does. This may seem like an extreme example, but most people who supported Hitler genuinely believed he was doing good.
This does not in any way excuse the behavior. I especially resent the implication that people who are older somehow get a pass for this, since I myself am Gen X and raised in a conservative community. Alice Cooper has access to all the information he needs to overcome his horrid worldview, but he chooses not to. He does not get a pass.
Moreover, it’s not fair to task marginalized groups with somehow convincing our oppressors not to be bigots. I’m not sure why you even think I’m in a position to persuade him to change, but if you want to try, then I fully support you.
Just don’t project this task onto me or anyone else, please and thank you
It’s obviously not about persuading him, but anyone hypothetically reading this threat and thinking “well, he’s not wrong”.
Of course everyone is ignorant, but there are degrees of ignorance and a variety of ways to respond to it. Not everyone is a literal nazi.
Thanks for totally disproving my point about trying to read people in good faith, I’m sure we’re both wiser from this interaction.
Careful with how tightly you clutch those pearls, you might break them
Brilliant.