Let’s say there’s someone I want to call Mr/Ms/Mrs [Name], but I don’t know their gender, is there a title I can use that doesn’t assume their gender?

  • SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml
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    I think we should standardize to the “mux” pronunciation.

    In electrical and computer engineering, a mux is a [multiplexer](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplexer#:~:text=In electronics%2C a multiplexer (or,inputs known as select lines.). It’s a chip that takes several potential inputs and switches between them to make a single output. This is analogous to deciding between multiple possible honorifics, in my mind.

    It is a stealth pun, which is one of my favorite types of puns.

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    Slightly off topic but I really like the approach where the honorific is just dropped entirely. So just [Name]. No Mr/Ms/Mrs. It mostly doesn’t serve any purpose anyway.

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      That’s what we did in Sweden in the 60s. It feels so archaic whenever I have to enter an honorific on documents (i.e when booking hotels and flights) from other countries.

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      This is honestly the right answer. You can be formal without the honorific. Include any titles they may have (PHD, PE).

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    I have started just using M. Like, “Dear M. Lastname”. I saw it being done in French and just adopted it for English too. No one’s complained yet. (Have also seen Mx. but figure that could be confusing.)

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      Just fyi, M. in French is only equivalent to Mr, it’s short for Monsieur. Mme (short for Madame) is equivalent to Mrs, and Mlle (short for Mademoiselle) is equivalent to Miss/Ms.

      So using M. for everyone is equivalent to saying Mr. for everyone.

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        Yeah, I know! That’s why I was surprised when someone addressed me as “M.” (while I don’t present as such, traditionally) in French. So, I thought “that’s neat!” and picked it up.

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      In the sci-fi book Hyperion (which takes place hundreds of years in the future) they use this convention throughout and it works really well, so I’ve also wished that it were widely adopted in our society. (Except for androids, where the title is A. rather than M.)

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        I’ve been playing though Prey and seeing people refer to Morgan Yu as “M. Yu” always throws me for a loop because I think they’re using an honorific. Doesn’t help that Morgan is already designed to be a gender-ambivalent character so the player can choose their gender and the story will still be the same

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      A sci-fi book from 1991 used that (Hyperion), and I thought it was just futurespeak. TIL!

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    Too bad we can’t adopt the Japanese “-san” honorific, as it is gender neutral!

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    Mx. seems the most commonly used for gender neutral. It’s used both by non-binary people and in cases where you purposefully don’t want to put a gender as a prefix.

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      Wow, I didn’t expect those results. Pretty impressive. Thanks for sharing!

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        I work on websites and have carried out extensive user testing to get the right non-binary honorific, and it ended up being Mx.

        Implemented it on every site I’ve worked on now.

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    Lord [name], my [name], my dear [name], the one they call [name], oh great and powerful [name].

    Jokes aside, one I’ve heard of that I liked was “misc” like miscellaneous lol. That one works a bit better in writing that verbal though.

    Some other popular ones include Mx, M, Ind/Div, N/A, Mt, Nb, and many others.

    For my own personal suggestion, I kinda like the idea of using “The” as a gender neutral title. Like instead of Mr or Ms Smith, it’s The Smith. Has a nice ring to it lol