• HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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    3 months ago

    You are misinterpreting my words. And it’s hard to claim not intentionally.

    1. I said the law should not be able to force you to make the donation. Nothing at all about your desire.

    This is the same as forcing a mother to donate her body and long term health to birth another being. You have no right to intimate her into dong so. And the law has decided the being has no rights until 24 weeks. Where evidence indicates it can survive without the mother.

    1. I never made any accusations about your religion or the motive of your actions. Read it again. I said your definitions of life and humanity are no better than religion. IE, they have zero evidence to back them up. Only that of your non-scientific opinion.

    Everything you provide argument wise is based on your personal definition of when a collection of cells is human. You do not have the ability to make that judgement. Nor do I and nor has science. But we do have the ability to judge when it is no longer a parasite (hard luck if you don’t like the term, nor do I. But it is technically correct) depending on the will of another being to live. And our laws consider its right to out weight the mothers at that point. Is it up for debate. Of course. But that is in no way the topic of this thread.


    Your very first response to me came back with bullshit scientific reasons why my claim your definition of human was unscientific. I have attempted to point out your misapplication of those facts. They are not a scientific answer. They are facts that fail to proove the cells are as you claim an independent human life.

    And as I keep saying. While you outright choose to ignore it as you have no answer.

    Non-off them give you or anyone who thinks as you do. The right to intimidate people following the law as it is now. That is the only reason the laws announced here have been created. And the only thing those laws stop you doing.

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      3 months ago

      You’re acting as if pregnancy just randomly occurs like an illness. It does not. I wouldn’t believe in a religion that doesn’t have evidence to back it up, so your presumption that I would still doesn’t make any sense. Offering support to a distressed person about to jump off a bridge is okay, so why isn’t it okay to offer support to a distressed person about to allow someone to murder her child? Both believe that what they’re going to do is the right thing.

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        3 months ago

        Your acting like you have a point.

        You dont.

        And I never said anything about uour religion. It has no officialnopinion on abortion. And the bible actually gives guides to do it.

        But it is freaking clear you have no idea what evidence actully is.

        But non of your opinions give you the right to intimidate people rather then try to change parlimentary votes. And that is the subjeect of this law.

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          3 months ago

          And the bible actually gives guides to do it.

          Excuse me but what?

          But it is freaking clear you have no idea what evidence actully is.

          Then can you give me evidence to where this so-called abortion guide is in the Bible?

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            3 months ago

            I feel it is important to clarify evidence.

            Numbers 5.21 is evidence of the words in the bible. So that humans who wrote the bible had no compunction with the death od a unborn fetus.

            Not in anyway evidence for or against the existance of god. Or its views on any subject.

            Science is agnostic. My personal view is athiest

            Evidence and understanding its meanong is the difference between the 2.

            This is why I habe pointed out several times I am in no way critisising your religion. Just your use of religiose like ideas to proove scientific or lefal points.

            That things look the same is not evidence they are the same.