San Francisco’s police union says a city bakery chain has a “bigoted” policy of not serving uniformed cops.

The San Francisco Police Officers Assn. wrote in a social media post last week that Reem’s California “will not serve anyone armed and in uniform” and that includes “members of the U.S. Military.” The union is demanding that the chain “own” its policy.

Reem’s says, however, its policy isn’t against serving armed police officers. It’s against allowing guns inside its businesses.

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    Last time I checked “Police Officer” wasn’t a protected class you little snowflakes.

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      veteran status is though in a lot of cases so I would not be surprised if there was movement to take it in that direction

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        They’re not banning veterans though, right? Just guns. Unless veterans are literally guns, but I know plenty of vets that don’t want open carry or unrestricted guns, so I’d say vets aren’t actually guns, and therefore aren’t restricted by this business’s policy.

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    It could be worse. This shop could react like police officers when someone enters a police station with a weapon.

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      They’re certainly not a protecTIVE class either.

      Baldurs Gate 3 spoiler warning

      Early Act 1 spoiler

      They’re like Anders, the guy who pretends to be a paladin of Tyr, the god of justice, but is actually the willing servant of an arch-devil

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          To be even more fair though, not having to “serve and protect” like they lie about on their cars is not the same thing as not being ALLOWED TO.

          They COULD choose to be decent humans who try to use their position of power to help people because it’s the right thing to do rather than an obligation, but of course, that’s not how a cop brain works.

          Also, to be slightly less fair but no less truthful, the current scotus makes a mockery of the very concept of justice and most of them should be recalled and prosecuted for gross corruption.

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        Except it’s a job not an innate, unchangeable characteristic… I honestly can’t tell if you’re serious or not.

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        That’s not how it works. They’re not an oppressed minority, they’re the oppressive tool of the political and economic elite.

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          Muricans and their lack of understanding irony and satire… Oh wow…

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            I’m actually not American and you didn’t make it at all obvious to a bunch of complete strangers that you were being sarcastic rather than an idiot 🤷

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    it’s about the guns, not the cops

    Honestly would be cooler if it were about the cops

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    Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t the same people having a whinge over this make the point about how businesses have the right to choose who they serve? I believe this was a few years ago when a different bakery refused to serve gay people.

    So it wasn’t about the rights of business to be run without government interference afterall.

    Well there is a shocker.

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      Being gay and being a cop are not at all the same. One is a sexual orientation and one is a job. Cops chose their job.

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        I think you may have misunderstood my post.

        A few years ago conservatives got their back up because a bakery refused to serve gay people and reasonable people found that to be wrong.

        Conservatives argued that a business has the right to choose who they serve without government interference. And this was held up in court.

        Therefore those same people complaining about another bakery not serving the police is the same thing. But now the shoe is on the other foot and they are crying foul.

        My post was meant to point out yet another example of hypocrisy from conservatives.

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          The point they made enhances yours. Yes it is hypocritical, but is arguably worse on the conservatives’ part since sexual orientation is something you’re born with.

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          Thanks for explaining - yes I misunderstood and thought you were saying that those who were mad a bakery refused to serve gay people shouldn’t try to ban anyone else from their own stores. Sorry about that and thanks for explaining!

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        Joke incoming: gay community already accepted cops as their kind.

        Or is it? Or did they?

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    For some more context this place, reems, really isn’t a bakery so much as a middle eastern take out place. The main store is currently closed down though so the only place they have open is a counter serve food court style place in the ferry building, so the cops didn’t get kicked out of the place, they either went to the counter and the cashier refused to serve, or more likely, they saw the new policy online and threw a hissy fit without actually going.

    The founder is a Palestinian lefty, so this probably was targeted towards cops/military.

    I’d highly recommend going here if your on a tourist trip and end up in the ferry building, not just for the cop hate, but there wraps are great as well.

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            Because I don’t believe that might makes right. I believe that we can be better than our primitive and murderous ancestors and we owe it to each other to at least try.

            As for your assertion on the origins of rights, that’s absolute bullshit. The vast majority of worker’s and other civil rights have been won via peaceful protest.

            You’ve actually got it backwards: TAKING AWAY rights always happens through violence. That’s what it’s for: enforcing your will on those you are unable or unwilling to convince by civilized means.

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              Sincerely, leftist pacifist

              Why are you a pacifist? All rights are won through violence.

              As for your assertion on the origins of rights, that’s absolute bullshit. The vast majority of worker’s and other civil rights have been won via peaceful protest.

              The history of society is the history of class struggle. Those rights were earned through struggle, not through asking nicely.

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                By peaceful protest I didn’t mean asking nicely. I meant being loud, getting in the way, generally making life miserable for the oppressors until they give in without sinking to their level.

                Non-violent is a much better term for it tbh, should have used that instead.

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                I will not fight for Starfleet, but I will defend its ideals. Pacifism is not pacivity. It’s the active protection of all living things in the natural universe.

                ~Hemmer

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                  I was with you right up until this historical revisionism. I’m a Baha’i and we are pacifists. But. If there is a threat to the community, we will start with words and diplomacy, and will end where we need to, to ensure the unity and safety of our communities.

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    Even if it were a policy against serving cops, didn’t the Supreme Court literally just rule that a business can deny any group?

    If you can refuse to serve gay people, you can refuse to serve cops. This shit goes both ways.

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      True, but court would claim the previous ruling was focused on contracted custom services and freedom of speech.

      It would be pretty easy for them to craft an argument in favor of letting the cops in, as hypocritical as it may be.

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        this is what being conservative is all about. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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    if you’re going to have policies that discriminate against one group of people, then own it, post it publicly,

    …McCray said somehow without even a hint of irony.

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    If cops want the bakery to “own” their policy, they they should own their policy of racial profiling

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    Hey now, cops aren’t all bad. I mean 60% of police wouldn’t be caught beating their wives.

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      60% of chips didn’t admit to it, that 40% was a self reported number so 40% were dumb enough to see “do you beat your spouse” and went "uhh duh…yep, everyday!

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        Congratulations, you found the joke behind me choosing such a specific wording.

        Here is a fun fact, they actually ruled that it is constitutional for a police officer to IQ requirements in hiring out of concern that someone who did not meet the requirement would not obey orders or may have questions about certain orders.

        This sounds reasonable except I’m not talking about the IQ being too low, I’m talking about the IQ being too high, some departments will actually limit people from being police officers if they test too high on an aptitude test.

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    The police complaining about something being bigoted? Are they that blind? Or do they really only care when it effects them…

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    “Reem’s has a deep commitment to uplifting social and racial justice in our communities,” the statement said. “This includes fostering an environment of safety for our staff and customers. In a time of increased gun violence — particularly impacting people of color, youth, and queer people — we believe that maintaining a strict policy of prohibiting guns in our restaurant keeps us safer.”

    They don’t want guns on their property. It’s pretty simple. They have the right to restrict guns on their property.

    Calling them ‘bigots’ and ‘discriminatory’ is disgusting, because those words mean hating people for inherent qualities that can’t be changed, like skin colour. You can leave your gun and uniform behind and poof you magically aren’t in the ‘discriminated’ group.

    Black people can’t leave their skin in their car. See the difference? No? Then you might be a bigot.

    e: anonymous downvoters, don’t be a pussy, reply please. That’s the whole point of this forum. Engage or gtfo.