The Pentagon has confirmed it is sending a THAAD missile defence system and US troops to Israel, publicly acknowledging that US troops will be on the ground assisting in Israel’s defence.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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      2 months ago

      Imagine the cops in Uvalde TX blocking parents from entering the school to stop the school shooter.

      They are not directly attacking the children, but they are protecting the shooter from being stopped. Defending Israel is that times a thousand.

      The THAAD systems are not defending civilian areas but Israeli military bases. To make matters worse almost all the weapons used by Israel are made in the USA.

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        Dummy use dead kids to make a dumb irrelevant point, they’re not punctuation marks for bad ideas. Similarly it’s not at like that.

        It’s not. That’s your belief it just doesn’t really stand the test of basic reality.

        Yes, that’s generally where missile defense systems exist and you’ll notice is almost certainly going to protect our top secret listening post. You know that thing that if it’s destroyed weakens intelligence gathering from most of the middle east and huge swaths of Asia.

        There’s are lots of reasons to be upset at the us, tons in fact. Defense systems aren’t really one of those. They just let us get boots on the ground and if the American playbook holds true a good third of those people will be intelligence assets. Similarly thaad can intercept outgoing missiles as well so there’s also the threat that the US can now directly stop an Israeli missile strike if they do not want it to happen.

        This isn’t the first time thaad has gone to Israel and they always end up protecting the expensive goofball not Israeli assets.

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      2 months ago

      This defense enables and emboldens Israeli aggression.

      It removes, or significantly reduces, the threat posed by Iranian ballistic missiles.

      That means, it removes, or reduces, any deterrent effect they have, on moderating Israel.

      This is not good, but less because of the risk of American KIA, and more because of how it changes the Israeli calculus.

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        Indeed. Israel will only come to a diplomatic solution when they cannot win militarily. This has always been the case in the past.

        Preventing a military Israeli defeat prolongs the Israeli aggression.

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        Not really. Iran wants an excuse to sit it out and they just got it.

        What it will do is give the us more intelligence agents in the ground figuring out what the actual duck is going on.

        We don’t care about isrealis killing ours. Neither attacking a ship nor running a civilian over with a bulldozer raised too much issue.

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          I’m quite aware of THAAD’s capabilities, including it s tracking radars, at least as far as publicly disclosed information goes.

          That’s not what I’m talking about.

          I’m talking about this reducing, or removing, one of Iran’s primary means of deterrence against Israeli attacks.

          If Israel doesn’t have to worry about the threat of Iranian ballistic missiles, it frees them up for an even more aggressive course of action.

          Unless you’re suggesting that this means Israel can, and should, continue to directly attack Iran…?

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        It doesn’t, Israel is going to do whatever they want just as they always have. We’re they not aggressive yet, did I miss calm level headed Israeli sometime in the last 50 years? No?

        Iran never intended to strike with authority, they struck back because they are intended to, they didn’t want involved and now they have every reason not to be.

        Iran isn’t now not has it ever truly been a moderating influence in Israel.

        There’s no change to the math, even without the us Israel is more than equipped to lay siege to Gaza for the foreseeable future and Iran had no intention of getting involved.