• TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    You should vote for neither and should spend your efforts and time thinking about this to work against them and for our mutual liberation.

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      2 months ago

      Ahhh, there it is. A Trump supporter in disguise.

      Btw, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

      I wont be replying again, feel free to have the final word.

      • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        Given that I oppose Trump and am not voting for him, it requires a bit of dishonesty and mental gymnastics to call me a Trump supporter.

        Please do your best to engage in good faith and directly address what I say. Sometimes we internalize the logic of our oppressors and this can lead to incorrect actions and prevent having the right positions and coherent solidarity with others. I think that is what is happening here.

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          Simple question: Who do you think would be better for the country as president? Neither isn’t an option, because one is happening, no matter what. Equally bad isn’t an option either, as no 2 people are completely identical. It doesn’t matter is objectively false, as they will do things differently, and those differences are not equivalent.

          The fact is actively telling Kamala supporters not to vote is indirectly voting for Trump, and vice versa, whether you yourself turn up or not.

          If you truly believe it doesn’t matter, there’s no reason to tell anyone to not vote, as voting and doing the other actions you recommend are not mutually exclusive.

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            Simple question: Who do you think would be better for the country as president?

            There is no meaningful discrimination within one’s power to predict. Appropriating manic cop genocidal neoliberal jingoist suit vs. uncivil blowhard racist uncle geriatric con man. Is oppression better when it is packaged with a smile and a pander? What if we remove the pander and just point at the other candidate and say, “or else”. Have you considered whether this question is a sufficient look at political action, with your pro-genocide vote filtered down as support for A or B genociders chosen for you by capitalist parties and their donors and subject to the electoral college such that if you are in 90% of states, including the most populous ones, it makes no difference in the outcome outside of you saying, “that’s right I don’t think of Palestinians as human”? Have you thought that thought? Or are you too busy explaining lazy high school civics like nobody’s ever heard of the two party system?

            Neither isn’t an option, because one is happening, no matter what.

            Cool well I’m voting for neither so account for that in your simplistkc game theory framework. I expect to see your homework in Game Theory 1}%, module 1: Baby’s First Electoralism in by Thursday by midnight EST.

            Equally bad isn’t an option either, as no 2 people are completely identical.

            Cool so you can quantity them? Normalized to 1 with a minimum if 0, what are their scores? Is it in the real numbers, rationals, fixed digits I.E. integers plus modulo a factor of 10? Us dummies need to know!

            It doesn’t matter is objectively false, as they will do things differently, and those differences are not equivalent.

            O oracle, lend me your sight! Will the polite manic neoliberal that receives absolutely zero opposition from you be worse than the McDonald’s Toy version of a memory of a whisper of Huckster George Wallace that you walk through town in a police-samctioned parade? Tell us!

            The fact is actively telling Kamala supporters not to vote is indirectly voting for Trump, and vice versa, whether you yourself turn up or not.

            Thank you for acknowledging that not voting for Trump is a vote for Kamala Harris so the previous questions are moot.

            If you truly believe it doesn’t matter, there’s no reason to tell anyone to not vote, as voting and doing the other actions you recommend are not mutually exclusive.

            Your vote matters in that you may normalize genocide with it. I would ask that you be a person that is against genocide and that you don’t vote for it. And then that you recognize you are not sharing wisdom but tired and old talking points that do not justify your descension and that you should care a bit more about brown people than being snarky in a Reddit clone that exists solely because your app mind-for-tif got taken away.

            Incidentally, you are from an Australian instance. Kindly go work in solidarity with aboriginal groups against your rampantly racist society and your imperialist AUKUS-promoting US subject state instead of advocating for American genociders.