CNN Poll: Percentage of Republicans who think Biden's 2020 win was illegitimate ticks back up near 70% | CNN Politics
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The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July.

The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

  • dmonzel@lemmy.world
    71·
    1 year ago

    It’s not just a mid-west thing. I’m in the PNW and I’ve yet to meet a Never Trumper republican.

    • skizzles@lemmy.world
      71·
      1 year ago

      Yup,

      Strangest thing to me is that I know quite a few Asians that immigrated here that are super Trumpers. I just can’t even grasp how.

      Also, interestingly enough, I also happen to work in a very right leaning field, and the majority of the republicans here have been very quiet since the Jan 6 incident. There was only one who was pretty outspoken about it, and he quit recently.

      • CoffeeAddict@artemis.camp
        3·
        1 year ago

        Just based on Queens, NY, I think the republicans in NYC capitalized on some of the things Democrats “beat around the bush” or avoided talking about. The Asian American population in NY is very anti-crime, and the dems perceived inaction on Anti-Asian Hate created an opening some I think local republicans capitalized on. Even the current mayor is a former cop.

        Now, how they got to be die-hard Trumpers is not something I understand. He did, after all, cause Asian Americans a-lot of grief with his whole “China Virus” BS during the pandemic…

        • MasterOBee Master/King@lemmy.world
          12·
          1 year ago

          Just based on Queens, NY, I think the republicans in NYC capitalized on some of the things Democrats “beat around the bush” or avoided talking about. The Asian American population in NY is very anti-crime, and the dems perceived inaction on Anti-Asian Hate created an opening some I think local republicans capitalized on. Even the current mayor is a former cop.

          Agreed 100%, it seems like empty virtue signalling that the left will back off on if it’s not the ‘right’ minority to defend.

          Now, how they got to be die-hard Trumpers is not something I understand. He did, after all, cause Asian Americans a-lot of grief with his whole “China Virus” BS during the pandemic…

          I can only speak for my asian community. But him calling it the ‘china virus’ was not a big deal to us. Him calling it the ‘Kung Flu’ will never fail to make me laugh.

      • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        Asians tend to be extremely conservative, particularly Chinese immigrants. They grew up in an authoritarian world, and view the progressive policies of the West as antithetical to their own. They don’t care if Trump is a racist, or blames them for the Kung Flu, because he represents their views on what a government should be.

      • RivenRise@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 year ago

        Might be the same reason why Mexicans vote for Republicans as well. As a Mexican I’ve observed that there’s plenty of racism and misogyny still going about, especially among the religious and ignorant crowd.

        • Techmaster@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          They cross the rope bridge going over the Rio Grande and then cut the rope once they’re across. The amount of hate I’ve seen Mexican immigrants direct at Mexicans trying to immigrate is mind blowing. So it’s no wonder that they flock to the republican party.

        • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          Latinos subscribe heavily to the machismo personality = good, and that any threat against it is a threat to their existence. They are raised religious with heavy incentive on strong family structures, something that conservatives use as a weapon to curry favor.

          • RivenRise@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            Yep, I remember seeing my ex brother in law seem upset for half a second at his baby gender reveil party when they popped a balloon and it was pink. The wife noticed and quickly unscrolled her blue parchment saying it was a lie and it was actually a boy. He wasn’t a bad dude but there was definitely machismo there.

      • MasterOBee Master/King@lemmy.world
        23·
        1 year ago

        Strangest thing to me is that I know quite a few Asians that immigrated here that are super Trumpers. I just can’t even grasp how.

        I’m first generation so maybe I can lend another viewpoint here. Obviously there is the fact that they tend to come from more conservative, religious countries, but there’s a lot more.

        Asian immigrants tend to have a culture of being studious and working hard. This has led to a lot of success, and even surpassing the white folk in a lot of thriving metrics. We’re told this is because white folk gave us special privileges to keep other minorities in check. The left has fought against protections for asian immigrants rather than treating them as they would other minorities. Affirmative action hurts asians, because asians tend to care more about grades. A lot of us feel we’re being punished because of this.

        Remember when the #stopasianhate stuff was going on? That was short lived, because it started to come out that the hate crimes were disproportionately committed by black perpetrators.

        We’re a minority when it’s convenient to the left, and thrown away when it’s inconvenient.

        Asians also are more strict on immigration, actually almost every legal immigrant population tends to be harsh on illegal immigration.

        Asian immigrants tend to be more socially conservative, and align with the right on that, and the right isn’t actively working against the asian community.

        • skizzles@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 year ago

          That’s a really fair point.

          My wife is Asian and I definitely understand the conservative side of many Asian cultures, also the immigration policies as I lived in Asia for almost a decade.

          Sometimes it can be hard to see the different viewpoints when you aren’t directly affected. For one reason obviouly, not being Asian myself (mixed but I’m basically white), and two, even having many Asian friends but never actually really discussing politics with them.

          I really appreciate the time you took to give some external viewpoints to things.

    • jimbo@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 year ago

      Yep, they’re still flying Trump flags and hanging Trump signs in the areas of Oregon outside the larger cities.

    • MasterOBee Master/King@lemmy.world
      14·
      1 year ago

      Is that the only metric?

      I voted for him in '16, same with my pa. Does someone have to be a ‘never trumper’ to be reasonable? I’m in the PNW too, I’ve seen a handful of Trump Trucks, but despite being from a more rural area (you know there are a lot of conservative pockets in the PNW), there isn’t this widespread support of Trump, from what I’ve seen.